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    You know what would be a great question to ask Sam? Did you and Eddie ever talk about you playing a Rhoads style guitar? I mean I can imagine at some point on 5150 or the rehearsals for the tour, Sammy pulled it out. Eddie likely saw it and inquired. Maybe he knew of the style but I can't see Eddie not asking about the guitar. I imagine once he found out it was a Rhoads he had something to say about Randy. Maybe its why Sammy played a Kramer too? So Eddie wouldn't be hurt?

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    Also, I remember being incredulous that EVH could be broke and living at home with his parents, at the same time being in a famous band. Had to be the same for Randy. He may have had money in the bank from teaching at Musonia right?

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    Sam looks to have had it pre 5150...



    different look from 5150 tour


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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicpunk5151 View Post
    Sam just went back up in my eyes a little bit.

    Bust it out again Sam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Sam just went back up in my eyes a little bit.

    Bust it out again Sam.
    Sam always gets the stories from back then (30/40 years ago) a little off. It was 86 with this guitar on the 5150 tour with VH. It is also not the guitar in the Hands and Knees video....haha..

    Regardless, it was cool AF when he was playing it on OWTR on LWAN.

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    My favorite guitar of Eddie's and Sammy's.....and the Van Halen version of this song is pretty kick ass.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Also, I remember being incredulous that EVH could be broke and living at home with his parents, at the same time being in a famous band. Had to be the same for Randy. He may have had money in the bank from teaching at Musonia right?
    Randy didn't live long enough to get money from his contributions. ITs very likely the deal that Ozzy signed with Daddy Arden was a show me contract. Nobody knew what was going to happen and he wsa damaged goods. Randy was a hired hand. when they were writing the album and recording he stayed with Ozzy so its likely he didn't have money to get a place. Then he did I think three tours. Died.

    In later life it didn't seem taht Delores Rhoads had moved to a mansion or anything of the sort. Now you would think that over the years the royalty checks would have added up but who knows how that was settled? Maybe since he died, that money didn't go anywhere? Plus you have Sharon and nobody will ever confuse her with being generous. I do think some bad blood ended up coming between her and the Rhoads estate. I know Randy's siblings have whored out their brothers name on a few of their ventures. His sister made a wine with Randy on it. So due to that I am thinking that money never really made the Rhoads family

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Randy didn't live long enough to get money from his contributions. ITs very likely the deal that Ozzy signed with Daddy Arden was a show me contract. Nobody knew what was going to happen and he wsa damaged goods. Randy was a hired hand. when they were writing the album and recording he stayed with Ozzy so its likely he didn't have money to get a place. Then he did I think three tours. Died.

    In later life it didn't seem taht Delores Rhoads had moved to a mansion or anything of the sort. Now you would think that over the years the royalty checks would have added up but who knows how that was settled? Maybe since he died, that money didn't go anywhere? Plus you have Sharon and nobody will ever confuse her with being generous. I do think some bad blood ended up coming between her and the Rhoads estate. I know Randy's siblings have whored out their brothers name on a few of their ventures. His sister made a wine with Randy on it. So due to that I am thinking that money never really made the Rhoads family
    I believe Randy's mom had an ongoing lawsuit with the Ozzy/Sharon camp. She was cheated. It's why I no longer have respect for Ozzy. Same with Dio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked Wake View Post
    I believe Randy's mom had an ongoing lawsuit with the Ozzy/Sharon camp. She was cheated. It's why I no longer have respect for Ozzy. Same with Dio.
    Not surprising. Had Randy not died, he most likely would have left/been fired unceremoniously from Ozzy and been in the magazines back then, telling folks how Sharon and Ozzy screwed him just like Jake E and Daisley.
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    I really despise that woman and to a lesser extent Ozzy for being such a pushover. Classic example of a guy with no balls. I love the in his prime voice and music but that family is nasty and it comes from Cruella Sharon. Her whole purpose in life was to cheat people.

    Having said that, guys like Daisley lost EVERY court case against Sharon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post
    Not surprising. Had Randy not died, he most likely would have left/been fired unceremoniously from Ozzy and been in the magazines back then, telling folks how Sharon and Ozzy screwed him just like Jake E and Daisley.
    as was stated either a page or two back in this thread or in the Ozzy thread, Randy was leaving the band after one more studio album. I'd always known that Randy was leaving, however, I didn't know that it was already agreed upon because of Randy's feeling he was being manipulated into having to play on Speak of the Devil, a live album of ONLY Black Sabbath stuff. Obviously RR did not play on that album because he died before it was recorded.

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    Yeah I iimagine Randy and Ozzy was a bit like Eddie and Sammy. At first things were great. Chummy and all that and then as success occurred, things cahnged. I don't really believe that Randy would have quit it all for college. I know he said that but its kind of like the whole Eddie wanting Patty Smythe to be in VH. I think these guys are no different than anybody else. You say something because you feel it one day. Then a week ro three later or its not that great of an idea. Had he lived he would have done his album then left. Now the interesting thing is that QR would have been where they were at because their album was released ini spring of 83. Therefore recorded in 82 and Randy likely would have still be in Ozzy doing a tour on a follow up album.

    Then again maybe Durbrow puts QR on hold a bit for Randy to return? Then they get a different producer and then no more Cum On Feel The Noise which along with Def Leppard broke metal into MTV>

    I always thought that Randy at some point would have ended up in Whitesnake after Sykes left. Then in later life toured iwth Trans Siberian Orchestra.

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    some interesting theories, Ziggy. On the other hand, I think he would have left, unless he got paid REALLY well (though I don't think money was as big a driver for RR as a lot of other 80's rockstars). I think he would have left and then tried to come back to metal at some point, whether it be with Ozzy or with someone else. Maybe he would have put out an album or two along the lines of the whole Mike Varney/Shrapnel Records school of shred stuff. It would be interesting to see how he would have reacted to guys like Tony MacAlpine, Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen, Satriani, Vai, etc. Don't forget he was gone before any of those guys broke through.

    I do know this: unless he had investments or his parents had money (I don't think they were poor, but I don't think they were rich either) he would have had to do something, because there's no way he would have been able to live off the income from the residuals of those two albums.

 

 

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