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10.21.00, 12:10 PM #1
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Ok,
Everyday I check in here and read all the stuff everyone wants to say. I am all for freedom of speech. But here is what I think.
A few of us have said in other threads that Van Halen is Van Halen as long as Ed, Al and Mike are there. And with no offense to Mike, if it's Ed and Al-it's Van Halen. Pretty simple.
But it's all this 'if it's not dave, i'm not a fan and you suck' crap that really gets me.
If you are a TRUE Van Halen fan you would want what makes the boys (Ed,Al,Mike) happy. We all know that they don't really get along with Dave, so why all you FANS want him back is beyond me.
I would go see them with Dave and love it, as long as they are happy that way. If they are happy they will make great music and more records for all us true fans.
I will remain thier fan as long as they put out music.
On the Dave side, I think his voice is shot. I saw a show of his last tour and he needs to stop pounding 'Jack' if he wants to be a singer. Very raspy....
III was a great record. That is the way VH was heading and I loved it. I wanted more of that new style of VH.
I really wish I knew what happened with Gary. Did they(management) boot him because of bad record sales. They only went gold, because that's all the TRUE fans they have. The rest are posers.
Bring Gary back, finish the record they started to make and tour the world again.
I know I am going to get flamed like crazy, but all those that agree with me are the real fans of VH and the ones that flame are the poser 'Dave' only fans.......Dave was done in '85, leave it that way. Let him play Vegas.
I got my Nomex on,
kujo
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10.21.00, 12:28 PM #2
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Just because you like James Bond doesn't mean you need to like everyone who played him.
That would be great if everyone could like all 3 versions of VH equally, but it's not possible. Nor does it mean one group of fans is more open-minded than the other.
I will root for Van Halen no matter who is singing though. And no matter who is playing for that matter.
But that doesn't mean I won't be critical of material I don't feel measures up to my expectations.
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10.21.00, 01:31 PM #3
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kujo:
If you are a TRUE Van Halen fan you would want what makes the boys (Ed,Al,Mike) happy...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So Dave's happiness doesn't matter? I just don't understand people who put Edward, Alex and Michael against the world. Van Halen is Edward, Alex, Michael and Dave. Anything else is an imitation and if you choose to buy it and support it, that is your choice, just as you were free to go see Diana Ross & the "Supremes" this past summer. But the Van Halen band name was established by Edward, Alex, Michael AND Dave - anyone else who's come after has benefitted because of that.
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10.21.00, 01:40 PM #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kujo:
We all know that they don't really get along with Dave, so why all you FANS want him back is beyond me.
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It's obvious from this quote that you never seen the "original formula" in action. If you had you would be saying "Sammy who?" and "Gary who?" I liked Sammy in the band and even enjoyed the III tour in '98, but nothing compares, nothing even comes close, to the original line-up. End of class.
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I don't know how anyone can say that Sam era VH is an imitation of DLR era VH since the two eras sound so different. And then the III album comes along and sounds nothing like either of the two previous eras (at least to my ears).
Hey, Dave left by his own admission. Life went on for VH without him. I like all VH, but I'm not hear to sell my theory on anyone. If DLR VH is the only VH that does it for you, cool.
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10.21.00, 02:20 PM #6
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When Dave left VH I don't blame Ed, Al, and Mike for not giving up. They didn't sit around and feel sorry for themselves. They got a new singer and blazed on. But, they should have changed the groups name. Because Eddie, Alex, DAVE, and Mike is Van Halen. Anything else is NOT.Peace out.
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We just have a difference of opinion Glenn and that is cool bro.Peace out.
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10.21.00, 02:31 PM #8
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I agree with you kujo that Eddie and Alex are the most important.
I'm moving this topic to VH Opinions.
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