Rock And Roll Hall of Fame + Museum

[patvh1]

I wonder if the R and R hall of fame focus more on american bands then any other? Then again, they have put alot of british bands in, just not many canadians. Any thought's on that?

[LLFHS]

I wonder if the R and R hall of fame focus more on american bands then any other? Then again, they have put alot of british bands in, just not many canadians. Any thought's on that?

Yes. <ahem>

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame can rim-job a mad cow having Olestra ejectings after being force-fed 200 gallons of prune juice and and feedbag full of Tommy's chili fries as far as I am concerned.

Thank you and god bless.

[ChrisTheEdHead]

I'm sure Foghat will make it.

And if they dont, Im sure they'll be playing a bar & grill somewhere near the induction ceremony

[IamNOTed,alex,mike,orDave]

Who cares really, the Rock & Roll HOF is a sham. They don't have the real people that deserve to be in it. Black Sabbath not in? Cmon, fan or not how can they not be in. Theres too many to mention, but there are a lot of bands that should be in and arent. I won't lose sleep over it.

[Hecubus]

I'm sure Foghat will make it.

As well they should.

[billy007]

Mellencamp, Miles Among Rock Hall Nominees

from www.billboard.com:

By Barry A. Jeckell, N.Y.



Rock veteran John Mellencamp, jazz legend Miles Davis and rap pioneers Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five are among the 15 acts being considered for the 21st class of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees. Artists are eligible 25 years after the release of their first record.

The field of artists making up this year's ballot is rounded out by Blondie, Cat Stevens, the Patti Smith Group, the Sex Pistols, the Stooges, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Sabbath, the Dave Clark Five, the J. Geils Band, Chic, Joe Tex and the Sir Douglas Quintet.

Inductees are selected by a panel of musicians, music industry professionals and journalists. Results are generally announced before the end of the year, with formal induction traditionally taking place in March at a ceremony in New York.

This year, performers Buddy Guy, the O'Jays, the Pretenders, Percy Sledge and U2 joined the Rock Hall, as did concert promoter Frank Barsalona and Sire Records co-founder Seymour Stein. Highlights of the ceremony at New York's Waldorf Astoria hotel were broadcast by VH1.

Surprised no one's talking about this in here.

John Mellencamp - sure

Miles Davis - ah, he's a musical genius, a legend and all, but rock 'n roll? I know there are some big time Miles Davis fans around here - help us out - is this a legitimate pick or does Miles Davis have about as much to do with rock 'n roll as New York City does with "Southern Hospitality"?

Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five - I respect these guys in the rap genre, but again, about the only thing they have to do with rock is that they sampled some songs from the genre to rap over.

Blondie - sure

Cat Stevens - can't deny he did have a good run with his music, but geez...

the Patti Smith Group - I think so

the Sex Pistols - there's a lively debate!

the Stooges - not as big as some others, but I have heard them cited as an influence often.

Lynyrd Skynyrd - hell yeah!

Black Sabbath - I thought they wanted no part of this - or did Sharon find a way to make a buck off it?

the Dave Clark Five - say what? Their biggest (and about only) hit was "Anyway You Want It" and I didn't even like it when KISS did it!

the J. Geils Band - definitely

Chic - maybe. Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers have done a lot of stuff in all forms of popular music.

Joe Tex - I only know a few songs and he's cool, but comes off as a bit of a James Brown knock-off

Sir Douglas Quintet - heard of 'em, can't name a single song, even while looking at their discography.

And of course, everyone wants to know - where's Van Halen?

[Van Squalen]

Skynyrd, Sabbath, and the Sex Pistols are no brainers. (say what you want about johnny, sid, and punk, these guys had a major influence on virtually any hard rock act in the late seventies/all of the eighties).

Mellencamp and Blondie, alternates.

The rest, iffy.

[smithjc]

Didn't the Blind Loon start a thread about this? I thought I translated his post re: the incoming inductees.

Damn shame about those VH brothers. LSD or not, the RRHOF is supposed to recognize the musical contributions of the artist, not worrying about the current state of the band. I know that they're probably questioning what would happen should invites go out and to who and all that. That shouldn't matter.

They're supposed to recognize the influence and music of the artist. I always thought VH was pretty influential back in the day. They still are according to some of today's musicians. What would VH do if they got the nod?
If ever...............................

[billy007]

Didn't the Blind Loon start a thread about this? I thought I translated his post re: the incoming inductees.

Damn shame about those VH brothers. LSD or not, the RRHOF is supposed to recognize the musical contributions of the artist, not worrying about the current state of the band. I know that they're probably questioning what would happen should invites go out and to who and all that. That shouldn't matter.

They're supposed to recognize the influence and music of the artist. I always thought VH was pretty influential back in the day. They still are according to some of today's musicians. What would VH do if they got the nod?
If ever...............................

He didn't start one in this forum if he did!

I don't think they would base the nominations on who would show up - I mean, hell, if that was a criteria then ol' Yusaf Islam never would've got nominated as I don't think he's even allowed in the country!

[smithjc]

My bad. It was by Hecubus in Main.

[Buckeye]

Skynyrd FINALLY gets in.....
http://www.rockhall.com/museum/releases.asp?id=2393

[empyre44]

saw that...should be interesting to see what Ozzy has to say since he has always said DONT vote for Sabbath. No doubt he shows up talking about how much of an honor it is.

[perticelli]

This list is the total list, by year of induction, of those in the RRHOF in Cleveland...

pretty sad VH isnt in ..

performers
Chuck Berry
James Brown
Ray Charles
Sam Cooke
Fats Domino
The Everly Brothers
Buddy Holly
Jerry Lee Lewis
Elvis Presley
Little Richard

early influences
Robert Johnson
Jimmie Rodgers
Jimmy Yancey

lifetime achievement
John Hammond

non-performers
Alan Freed
Sam Phillips




performers
The Coasters
Eddie Cochran
Bo Diddley
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Bill Haley
B. B. King
Clyde McPhatter
Ricky Nelson
Roy Orbison
Carl Perkins
Smokey Robinson
Big Joe Turner
Muddy Waters
Jackie Wilson

early influences
Louis Jordan
T-Bone Walker
Hank Williams

non-performers
Leonard Chess
Ahmet Ertegun
Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller
Jerry Wexler




performers
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
The Drifters
Bob Dylan
The Supremes

early influences
Woody Guthrie
Lead Belly
Les Paul

non-performers
Berry Gordy, Jr




performers
Dion
Otis Redding
The Rolling Stones
The Temptations
Stevie Wonder

early influences
The Inkspots
Bessie Smith
The Soul Stirrers

non-performers
Phil Spector




performers
Hank Ballard
Bobby Darin
The Four Seasons
The Four Tops
The Kinks
The Platters
Simon and Garfunkel
The Who

early influences
Louis Armstrong
Charlie Christian
Ma Rainey

non-performers
Gerry Goffin and Carole King
Holland, Dozier and Holland




performers
LaVern Baker
The Byrds
John Lee Hooker
The Impressions
Wilson Pickett
Jimmy Reed
Ike and Tina Turner

early influences
Howlin' Wolf

lifetime achievement
Nesuhi Ertegun

non-performers
Dave Bartholomew
Ralph Bass




performers
Bobby "Blue" Bland
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
Johnny Cash
The Isley Brothers
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Sam and Dave
The Yardbirds

early influences
Elmore James
Professor Longhair

non-performers
Leo Fender
Bill Graham
Doc Pomus




performers
Ruth Brown
Cream
Creedence Clearwater Revival
The Doors
Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Etta James
Van Morrison
Sly and the Family Stone

early influences
Dinah Washington

non-performers
Dick Clark
Milt Gabler




performers
The Animals
The Band
Duane Eddy
The Grateful Dead
Elton John
John Lennon
Bob Marley
Rod Stewart

early influences
Willie Dixon

non-performers
Johnny Otis




performers
The Allman Brothers Band
Al Green
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Martha and the Vandellas
Neil Young
Frank Zappa

early influences
The Orioles

non-performers
Paul Ackerman




performers
David Bowie
Gladys Knight and the Pips
Jefferson Airplane
Little Willie John
Pink Floyd
The Shirelles
The Velvet Underground

early influences
Pete Seeger

non-performers
Tom Donahue




performers
The (Young) Rascals
The Bee Gees
Buffalo Springfield
Crosby, Stills and Nash
The Jackson Five
Joni Mitchell
Parliament-Funkadelic

early influences
Mahalia Jackson
Bill Monroe

non-performers
Syd Nathan




performers
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
The Mamas and the Papas
Lloyd Price
Santana
Gene Vincent

early influences
Jelly Roll Morton

non-performers
Allen Toussaint




performers
Billy Joel
Curtis Mayfield
Paul McCartney
Del Shannon
Dusty Springfield
Bruce Springsteen
The Staple Singers

early influences
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Charles Brown

non-performers
George Martin




performers
Eric Clapton
Earth, Wind & Fire
Lovin' Spoonful
The Moonglows
Bonnie Raitt
James Taylor

early influences
Nat "King" Cole
Billie Holiday

sidemen
Hal Blaine
King Curtis
James Jamerson
Scotty Moore
Earl Palmer

non-performers
Clive Davis




performers
Aerosmith
Solomon Burke
The Flamingos
Michael Jackson
Queen
Paul Simon
Steely Dan
Ritchie Valens

sidemen
James Burton
Johnnie Johnson

non-performers
Chris Blackwell




performers
Isaac Hayes
Brenda Lee
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
Gene Pitney
Ramones
Talking Heads

sidemen
Chet Atkins

non-performers
Jim Stewart




performers
AC/DC
The Clash
Elvis Costello & the Attractions
The Police
Righteous Brothers

sidemen
Benny Benjamin
Floyd Cramer
Steve Douglas

non-performers
Mo Ostin




performers
Jackson Browne
The Dells
George Harrison
Prince
Bob Seger
Traffic
ZZ Top

lifetime achievement
Jann S. Wenner




performers-the current inductee's class
Buddy Guy
The O'Jays
The Pretenders
Percy Sledge
U2

lifetime achievement
Frank Barsalona
Seymour Stein

How the hell can they rationally exclude VH?
Seriously?

It kills their Credibility as a legit RRHOF..and Adds to the Cred of THE VHLinks one

[billy007]

I don't think I have a problem with too many of the people that have been inducted into Cleveland, it's more the people that still haven't. I wish they'd post on their website a list of the inductees by year of first release (since that's their criteria anyway) - that would help I think show up where the holes are. But I do think calling themselves the "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" becomes a misnomer with some of the acts as they encompass a lot more than just what you or I would consider rock 'n roll. More like a popular music hall of fame - nothing wrong with that, either. But even that's not completely right, because not every hall-worthy musician or band was necessarily "popular"...

[Van Murphenstein]

Miles Davis - ah, he's a musical genius, a legend and all, but rock 'n roll? I know there are some big time Miles Davis fans around here - help us out - is this a legitimate pick or does Miles Davis have about as much to do with rock 'n roll as New York City does with "Southern Hospitality"?

Miles Davis does NOT belong in a Rock n' Roll hall of fame. Musical Genuis and Legend, Definatley! But for Jazz, Dammit. Let me know when the Trumpet becomes a mainstream rock instrument and then maybe he could be elligable.