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    What do you guys think?

    According to the IDF, Hamas is bigger and stronger than ever and appears to be waiting for something to happen. Sorry, I don't have any documentation to back that up right now, but I did read it.

    I think that as soon as the withdrawal is complete, Hamas is gonna move in there and operate with more freedom than they've ever had. Israel will retaliate, and, well, back to square one. Problem is, Israel will be viewed as more of a villain when they go back in their and "re-occupy" the Gaza strip.
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    I'm not convinced it will play out that way. Sharon pussed out in a literally historic way with this whole thing. I can't honestly believe what I've been seeing/reading.

    I think if it did play out that way, the end of days won't be far behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad
    I'm not convinced it will play out that way. Sharon pussed out in a literally historic way with this whole thing. I can't honestly believe what I've been seeing/reading.

    I think if it did play out that way, the end of days won't be far behind it.
    What do you think will play out? And please don't sit the fence on this one!
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    or...Sharon is giving all they have left to give, in one last attempt at peace, taking the high road.
    Should the Palestinians retaliate after this, how could Israel be faulted for destroying palestine ?

    I call this the Gaza Gambit.He either gets peace or he gets all the land..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebmm_axis
    What do you think will play out? And please don't sit the fence on this one!
    lol.

    I don't think hamas will ever be satisfied and the people of Israel will be carrying a massive chip on their shoulder. Things are going to heat back up over there in a big way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad
    lol.

    I don't think hamas will ever be satisfied and the people of Israel will be carrying a massive chip on their shoulder. Things are going to heat back up over there in a big way.
    Shit, they're declaring victory over Israel because of the pullout. Inspite of the fact that it's unilateral and Hamas walked out of negotiations. To their credit(?) Israel decided to hold up their end of the original deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300
    Shit, they're declaring victory over Israel because of the pullout. Inspite of the fact that it's unilateral and Hamas walked out of negotiations. To their credit(?) Israel decided to hold up their end of the original deal.
    It's an excuse that Israel will be able to use after Hamas launches another attack on Israeli civilians that will be organized and launched from Gaza. They'll say, "Hey, we tried. We did everything possible. Now the gloves are off."

    Get ready boys. It's gonna get interesting now!
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    As someone who is Jewish, and heavily involved in the Jewish Community and Israeli activism I am very torn. Part of me thinks that the stratigic reasons are good ones to quit gaza, but to see Jews fighting Jews absolutely brought me to tears.

    I feel that we are rewarding terrorists, but economically and stratigically defending 8000 Jews from 1.5 million blood thirsty arabs seems suicidal, and a waste of energy. Ultimately, what this will do much more harm then help in the end unless there are programs to help heal the divide in the Israeli public.

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    Those damned Palestinians are claiming that the blood of the martyrs has brought the defeat of Israel as demonstarted in the Gaza pullout, which is going to inspire what? You guessed it, more "martyrdom". I would love to rip the everloving shit out of Palestinians right now but it is only the radical islamic fools that need a good napalm bath. I feel for the Israelis right now because now WWII's sacrifice has just been diminished by Sharon. Perhaps he is the antichrist or a forerunner to him and this is the beginning of "the" peace in the middle east.
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    No no no. Sharon is not anit-christ.

    Bostonian, I feel for you and the Jews that are there now. I almost feel worse for the soldiers who are forced to aid in the evacuation. That has to be hell.

    With regard to Palestinians, it's not my belief that it's only radicals that need an adjustment, it's most of them, if not all of them.

    Toting this as a martyrs victory and rubbing the Israelis nose in it is disgusting and pathetic. I seriously think that if I were Jewish, I'd be ready to kick a whole lot of serious ass. I think I read that one opened fire on a group of gypsies (palestinians) and killed 3 or so (which hamas swore revenge to of course) and I can't say I blame him one bit. I'd be absolutely beside myself having to give up my home to these people, who aren't even an official "people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad
    No no no. Sharon is not anit-christ.

    Bostonian, I feel for you and the Jews that are there now. I almost feel worse for the soldiers who are forced to aid in the evacuation. That has to be hell.

    With regard to Palestinians, it's not my belief that it's only radicals that need an adjustment, it's most of them, if not all of them.

    Toting this as a martyrs victory and rubbing the Israelis nose in it is disgusting and pathetic. I seriously think that if I were Jewish, I'd be ready to kick a whole lot of serious ass. I think I read that one opened fire on a group of gypsies (palestinians) and killed 3 or so (which hamas swore revenge to of course) and I can't say I blame him one bit. I'd be absolutely beside myself having to give up my home to these people, who aren't even an official "people".

    Am I on the fence ebmm?
    What you read in my post was a subtle attempt at being PC. It is a fact that the Quaran states that a Muslims duty is to kill the infedels by whatever means are necessary. The US is in every way the infidel that they speak of and I have no idea whay the entire US Muslim population cannot be listed as enemy combatants and thrown out of here on their asses. All of the support that we give Israel (#1 in aid from the US at 2.2bil/year) and they have their hands tied by these rat like people. I feel for the Israelis right now but I also feel for the soldiers of WWII that are rolling over in their graves. Didn't our president state at the end of the war, "Never again....NEVER AGAIN" in regards to the Jews?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad
    No no no. Sharon is not anit-christ.

    Bostonian, I feel for you and the Jews that are there now. I almost feel worse for the soldiers who are forced to aid in the evacuation. That has to be hell.

    With regard to Palestinians, it's not my belief that it's only radicals that need an adjustment, it's most of them, if not all of them.

    Toting this as a martyrs victory and rubbing the Israelis nose in it is disgusting and pathetic. I seriously think that if I were Jewish, I'd be ready to kick a whole lot of serious ass. I think I read that one opened fire on a group of gypsies (palestinians) and killed 3 or so (which hamas swore revenge to of course) and I can't say I blame him one bit. I'd be absolutely beside myself having to give up my home to these people, who aren't even an official "people".

    Am I on the fence ebmm?
    Don't worry. Their is still a lot of ass yet to be kicked.

    Too much hate. Too much evil. Too much religion. Too rooted in beliefs.

    It's just a matter of time. And it won't be a long time either.

    I don't agree with you on the killing of those Palestinians. That guy, well, he's a looney. It's too bad... I wish the pullout could have been entirely peaceful.

    It's a move that's being done to appease the masses.

    All that's really happened is Hamas has a bigger playground now. And don't think for a second the IDF isn't aware and prepared.
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    its exactly right to say that this isnt the end. Sharon is doing this as the last olive branch.
    believe me when i tell you, the palestinians can show themselvbes to be good, smart and humble people, deserving of a place in the world community, or they can show themselves to be narcississtic animals who always cry foul and whose only real aim is the eradication of all jews from the earth.
    If it is the first choice, then there will be some form of peace.
    if they choose the latter, which is what i expect, there will be complete and utter destruction of the Palestinian people/state.
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