The Journey thread!

[Darrin Stephens]

Cain has a very long reputation as POS and total thief. He has stolen and screwed over so many musicians and writers over the years.

As far as the C&D it depends on the operating agreement of their partnership and is Neal managing partner or not. It should be pretty clear cut read the OA and he either does or doesn't have the authority. It is a OA issue not a political one although that may be each's motivation legally it will be straight forward

[bklynboy68]

Cain has a very long reputation as POS and total thief. He has stolen and screwed over so many musicians and writers over the years.

As far as the C&D it depends on the operating agreement of their partnership and is Neal managing partner or not. It should be pretty clear cut read the OA and he either does or doesn't have the authority. It is a OA issue not a political one although that may be each's motivation legally it will be straight forward

That whole band has been motherfuckin' each other for nearly its entire existence.

Perfect example of a band who publicly looks happy and privately shank each other in their sleep.

[Darrin Stephens]

That whole band has been motherfuckin' each other for nearly its entire existence.

Perfect example of a band who publicly looks happy and privately shank each other in their sleep.

Yes and much worse w Herbie's passing but Cain rep for thievery is OUTSIDE of Journey. It is a rep he had as early as 83. He has flat out stole a lot from upcoming artists and credits for shit he never wrote a single note. Neal really is not a business guy and Cain is indeed a thief so Neal will be disadvantaged trying to play catch up business wise. End of the day the OA decides shit like this and all a judge will care about.

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[Little Dreamer]

That whole band has been motherfuckin' each other for nearly its entire existence.

Perfect example of a band who publicly looks happy and privately shank each other in their sleep.

Journey's next level for that kind of stuff, even VH can't compete. VH is happy with the silver medal at the dysfunctional band olympics.

[bklynboy68]

JONATHAN CAIN: 'If Anyone Is Destroying The JOURNEY Brand, It Is NEAL SCHON'

December 22, 2022




JOURNEY keyboardist Jonathan Cain has fired back at his bandmate Neal Schon after the JOURNEY guitarist called him a "hypocrite" for performing the band's 1981 hit song "Don't Stop Believin'" at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago property. Cain, whose wife, Paula White-Cain, is the former president's self-styled spiritual adviser, played the track late last month with a backup chorus of U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump Jr.'s fiancée Kimberly Guilfoyle and former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake.

Earlier today, Cain released the following statement to BLABBERMOUTH.NET: "Neal Schon should look in the mirror when he accuses me of causing harm to the JOURNEY brand. I have watched him damage our brand for years and am a victim of both his — and his wife's — bizarre behavior. Neal sued Live Nation twice, losing both times, and damaging our ability to ever work with them again; Neal outrageously tried to take away trademarks from Steve Perry; Neal and his wife continually insult the professionalism of numerous accountants, road managers, and management firms with endless legal threats and their bullying, toxic, and incoherent emails; Neal argues online with fans who don't see eye to eye with him; and Neal and his wife recklessly spend JOURNEY's money until there is none left for operating costs. If anyone is destroying the JOURNEY brand, it is Neal — and Neal alone."



https://blabbermouth.net/news/jonath...-is-neal-schon

[Dave not David]

I'm hearing "I'm not saying I'm NOT doing those things Neal is accusing me of, but he's doing these OTHER things you should pay attention to!"

[fudd]

I'm hearing "I'm not saying I'm NOT doing those things Neal is accusing me of, but he's doing these OTHER things you should pay attention to!"

Three people own the trademark to the song. Cain, perry and schon.

As long as money ain’t changing hands, there’s no issue.


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[CaboChris]

Schon doesn't have leg to stand on the Mar A Lago thing. He shouldn't even bring that shit up

[fudd]

Schon doesn't have leg to stand on the Mar A Lago thing. He shouldn't even bring that shit up

He’s attempting to save his cosmetically enhanced face.

[CaboChris]

'Journey’s Original Keyboardist Gregg Rolie to Join Band on Upcoming Tour"

https://consequence.net/2023/01/greg...-journey-tour/

[bklynboy68]

'Journey’s Original Keyboardist Gregg Rolie to Join Band on Upcoming Tour"

https://consequence.net/2023/01/greg...-journey-tour/

This is a treat.

[MD 5150]

Too bad Steve Perry isn't up to it or able.

[bklynboy68]

NEAL SCHON And JONATHAN CAIN Reunite On Stage At JOURNEY's First Concert Of 2023

January 28, 2023


Legendary rockers JOURNEY played their first concert of 2023 last night (Friday, January 27) in Durant, Oklahoma. The two-hour performance at the 3,000-capacity Grand Theater at the Choctaw Casino & Resort marked the band's first appearance since JOURNEY guitarist Neal Schon and keyboardist Jonathan Cain publicly feuded over several issues, including Neal allegedly causing over $1 million in personal expenses to be charged to the band's shared American Express card and Schon demanding that Cain stop playing events for former U.S. president Donald Trump.

JOURNEY will play a second show in Durant tonight (Saturday, January 28),before officially kicking off the main portion of its 50th-anniversary tour on February 4 in Allentown, Pennsylvania, with TOTO once again on the bill.

JOURNEY's setlist for last night's concert was as follows:

01. Only The Young
02. Stone In Love
03. Don't Stop Believin'
04. Lights
05. Send Her My Love
06. Feeling That Way
07. Anytime
08. Escape
09. Dead Or Alive
10. Who's Crying Now
11. Mother, Father'
12. Let It Rain
13. Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'
14. Open Arms
15. Faithfully
16. Girl Can't Help It
17. Wheel In The Sky
18. Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
19. Be Good To Yourself
20. Any Way You Want It

Earlier this month, Cain filed a lawsuit against Schon over the guitarist's personal expenses which were allegedly charged to the American Express card, including $400,000 in a single month last year.

Cain's allegations come more than two months after Schon filed a lawsuit against his longtime bandmate, contending that he was being denied access to the American Express card.

In a countersuit filed in California state court, Cain said that during the first one-month billing cycle, after Schon obtained the AMEX card, Schon charged more than $50,000 in personal expenses for the billing period ending September 15, 2021. For the one-month billing period ending January 15, 2022, Schon allegedly charged more than $100,000 of his personal expenses on the AMEX card. For the one-month billing period ending February 13, 2022, Schon allegedly charged approximately $30,000 of his personal expenses on the AMEX card. For the one-month billing period ending March 16, 2022, Schon allegedly charged more than $400,000 of his personal expenses on the AMEX card. The charges allegedly included $42,000 to various PayPal accounts, over $104,000 to Chrome Hearts (jewelry and apparel),more than $31,000 to the Bergdorf Goodman department store in New York City, and over $54,000 for his personal insurance premiums.

According to Cain's lawsuit, "Schon's charges placed considerable pressure on JOURNEY and its ability to cover normal tour expenses. Schon was spending JOURNEY's money, and Cain is the one who was and is ultimately liable for the AMEX Account and Schon's charges on the AMEX Card. Even with the $30,000 limit on Schon's card on the Nomota AMEX account," referring to the company Cain and Schon set up to operate the band, "Schon still managed to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional, excessive personal expenses through other tour personnel and travel agents. For example, the budget allocated a maximum of $1,500 per night for hotel rooms for Schon and Cain. However, Schon demanded to stay in hotel suites that cost in excess of $5,000 per night. After the recent tour ended in Honolulu, Hawaii, Schon stayed an extra week in a hotel suite that cost $6,000 a night and charged more than $100,000 in expenses to the AMEX Account."

In a statement to Billboard, Schon's attorney Skip Miller called allegations "ridiculous" and "as phony as a three dollar bill." He said the countersuit was merely "sour grapes" after a recent incident in which Schon demanded that Cain stop playing for Trump. "We want Cain to just focus on JOURNEY and its fans," Miller said.

Last month, Cain fired back at Schon when the JOURNEY guitarist called him a "hypocrite" for performing the band's 1981 hit song "Don't Stop Believin'" at Trump's Mar-a-Lago property. Cain, whose wife, Paula White-Cain, is the former president's self-styled spiritual adviser, played the track in November with a backup chorus of U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump Jr.'s fiancée Kimberly Guilfoyle and former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake.

"Neal Schon should look in the mirror when he accuses me of causing harm to the JOURNEY brand," Cain said in a statement. "I have watched him damage our brand for years and am a victim of both his — and his wife's — bizarre behavior."

An attorney for Schon sent a cease-and-desist letter to Cain after he performed at Trump's Florida estate.

The latest legal move came a few weeks after Schon filed his lawsuit against Cain. Cain, for his part, accused Schon of misusing the card, citing his "excessive spending and extravagant lifestyle."

A month earlier, former JOURNEY singer Steve Perry took legal action against both Schon and Cain, asking them to stop registering federal trademarks on the names of many of the band's hits.

Rolie was JOURNEY's first singer, though his role quickly diminished when Perry arrived in 1977. Gregg left JOURNEY in 1980, just before the band achieved its commercial heights.

Presented by AEG Presents, JOURNEY's tour with TOTO will make stops in Austin, Montreal and Memphis before wrapping April 25 at the brand-new Acrisure Arena in Palm Springs, California.

The "Freedom Tour 2023" run includes rescheduled dates in Washington, D.C., plus Hartford, Toronto and Quebec, which were postponed last year due to the coronavirus.





https://blabbermouth.net/news/neal-s...oncert-of-2023

[Little Dreamer]

Man, I wish I could find that Journey AMEX card somewhere. I'd charge a few grands, a trip to Hawaii, no one would even notice.

[edwardv]

Better catch this tour early on before they get back to fighting.