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    i'm just wondering if anyone would consider it a ballad, or maybe its just a love song?
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    I won't consider it a ballad, it's a rock song with a lot of groove.

    [ February 17, 2002 at 10:13 PM: Message edited by: ED-A-HOLIC ]</p>
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    I'm not sure how I would answer your question Mean_Street. One thing I can say is that I've always really liked the song even if it isn't one of the more popular ones.

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    but it is sort of a slow but up beat song.. its had to say really, but it depends.

    Ouncie.. i love the song, no one talks about it and its such an underrated song! i think Diver Down is a really great album. Even though it has cover songs, they did the cover songs really good. i just like the cd.the front is cool and so is the inside where it shows the collage of some pics of van halen.

    [ February 10, 2002 at 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Mean_Street ]</p>
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    I consider Secrets a ballad.
    Right Now you're reading my post!


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    SECRETS is no ballad. It's more like a light song with a groove. A ballad to me is a more introspective slow song, usually played with acoustics or piano. Some ballads have electrics too, but the lyrics of that song just find Dave in a more laid back mood. I would consider the song simply a laid back VH song with a helluva hook.
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    No, it's just a very sensual rock song, much like Women In Love. Great song. I can never decide whether Secrets or Little Guitars is my favorite off DD. BTW, VH always played Secrets heavier in concert than it sounds on the album, so I doubt they really considered it a ballad.

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    Originally posted by Mean_Street:
    i'm just wondering if anyone would consider it a ballad, or maybe its just a love song?
    Neither... just a great piece of rock n' roll!
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    Originally posted by Rikk:
    SECRETS is no ballad. It's more like a light song with a groove. A ballad to me is a more introspective slow song, usually played with acoustics or piano. Some ballads have electrics too, but the lyrics of that song just find Dave in a more laid back mood. I would consider the song simply a laid back VH song with a helluva hook.
    Some people here have said that Feels So Good is a ballad, but I think it's similar to Secrets except for the keyboards. FSG isn't slow and it has a groove and hook, so I don't consider it a ballad.
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    Feels So Good=possibly the worst Van Hagar song, along with "When It's Love." Yuck.

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    Originally posted by Dan Halen:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Rikk:
    SECRETS is no ballad. It's more like a light song with a groove. A ballad to me is a more introspective slow song, usually played with acoustics or piano. Some ballads have electrics too, but the lyrics of that song just find Dave in a more laid back mood. I would consider the song simply a laid back VH song with a helluva hook.
    Some people here have said that Feels So Good is a ballad, but I think it's similar to Secrets except for the keyboards. FSG isn't slow and it has a groove and hook, so I don't consider it a ballad.</font>[/QUOTE]I actually like FEELS SO GOOD. And no, I don't think it's a ballad at all. It's just a well-crafted pop song.
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    Originally posted by Ian Sane:
    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Mean_Street:
    i'm just wondering if anyone would consider it a ballad, or maybe its just a love song?
    Neither... just a great piece of rock n' roll!</font>[/QUOTE]Just a great piece of rock n' roll huh? That's the best description I can think of!

    [ February 12, 2002 at 12:36 AM: Message edited by: ouncie33 ]</p>

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    I'll pile on here and say that neither Secrets nor Feels So Good are ballads. They're slower to mid tempo rock songs, with a groove.

    Here are a few undisputable ballads:

    Heaven, by Warrant
    Every Rose Has It's Thorn, by Poison
    Home Sweet Home, by Motley Crue
    Nobody's Fool, by Cinderella
    I Remember You, by Skid Row

    Secrets and Feels So Good have nothing in common with these songs at all...

    C'mon, can anybody else think of some really cheesy ballads from the 80's?

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    C'mon, can anybody else think of some really cheesy ballads from the 80's?
    umm, umm hmm. i don't know at the top of my head at the moment.
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    It's most definately not a ballad, if you go by what is traditionally considered a rock ballad. If you listen to the lyrics, you know it's not a love song either.

 

 

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