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[kev eaton]

how many true van halen fans out there can honestly say van halen 3 was a great album to me it sucked. (come back van halen)

[Glenn]

I love Van Halen III. It's a seriously different album for Van Halen to have made, no question, but taken on it's own merits, it's stong material. The production certainly leaves something to be desired. But I think the songs are great, and it's nice to see another side to Eddies' brilliance.

Anyway, I'm going to throw this over to the Songs and Albums Forum, go easy on ole VH III, after all, we're celebrating a birthday today.

[GirlGoneBad!]

I don't feel like getting into this subject because it is beat and it will probably start fights. I can say I love it because I am a Van Halen fan....true fan. I stick with these guys no matter what and if someone wants to call themselves a "true fan" then I don't think they should be saying,"Dave sucks" "Sammy sucks" "Gary sucks". If it says Van Halen you learn to like it! Eddie wasn't gonna be 22 forever. I think the Van Halen III record was way over the fans heads. The Van Halen crowd is a bunch of beer drinking party heads. Also recording equipment is different today and times change. A lot of people that want Roth back think it will become 1984 all over again and maybe it will but you don't become instantly young when the record and tour comes along.Don't get me wrong,I love the Dave era. Like many fans,it is my favorite era but don't think these guys are gonna be swiggin' Jack every night and having multiple sex partners those days are over.I would love to see Eddie play the striped guiar and Roth doing kicks so don't flip on me because I am one of the biggest fans of that era. I do the Roth yells in Stop&Shop. But I am just saying it is different. You probably hated Metallica when they did Load and the other material(nobody bring up Napster it is as dead a subject as VH3).Anywho....I can't believe I wrote this much over this. I guess as long as I love it who gives a shit then they made the record for me. Eddie,"As long as we touch one person with it,mission accomplished." Well that is me,the person that listens to that record almost every night("Fair Warning" gets its play too!) when I go to bed.Thanks Eddie!

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[Glenn]

There's something that I've been meaning to say about VH III for quite some time, but I have never been able to properly articulate it. But I'm going to try here. Understand this is all just a theory on my part.

I've often wondered how much VH III had to do with the sobriety and the fatherhood of Edward Van Halen. The dates of Ed getting sober are certainly unclear, but it's my understanding that in these post Sammy days Eddie ceased drinking. Now I remember reading that one of the key reasons he wanted to stop was stumbling in in the morning and coming face to face with his young son. Now being sober and seeking professial help would certainly (I believe) lead Edward to face feelings long held inside by alcoholism. Feelings which would deal with his being a father, but also about his feelings toward his own father, Jan Van Halen. Anyone who has ever read anything on Van Halen knows that Edward had a very close relationship with his father, and sobriety would perhaps allow him to face his loss head on without the crutch of alcohol or drugs.

Facing his own fears of being a father to Wolfgang, as well as the deep feelings of loss over his father would certainly lead a creative person like Edward to express himself through his music. And the songs on VH III are, IMO, more introspective and deeper than perhaps anything Eddie has ever written. I believe the sobriety of Edward Van Halen was instrumental in creating what became VH III.

Anyway, hopefully that made sense, even if you don't agree with it.

[Rippin Loud]

Im with Gleen on the production thing and also about Ed sobering up..I have been listening to VH3 alot here lateley and the more I listen to it the more I like it!! No it was not the hard rockin party till you drop Vh, but I don't think it sucked!!Just different..

[Edward Van Halen]

I love that album because it is so different from all the others!!!!!

[Unchained Wolfie]

I like it because its different. It is very versatile and deep. Eddie needed a singer like gary to express the true emotion in what he was writing. Sometimes the deeper stuff doesnt sell alot, or isn't very popular, but thats because alot of people didnt undrestand it or cant relate to it. I say kudos to Eddie for writing his feelngs into music. That's what he has always done, and i guess this time his feelings were different than usual, and most people cant relate. Just like his feelings were different on Fair Warning, and Balance.

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[This message has been edited by Unchained Wolfie (edited September 01, 2000 at 08:43 PM).]

[Jerel]

Each era was so different musically. The band evolved. VH3 showed very much how the band could change thru time. Was the audience ready for it? No. I for one enjoyed the album very much. VH3 really can't be compared to anything else they have done in the past. It WAS compared, and that is why it got a poor receiving.

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[BrokenCombs]

I bought that album the day it came out.
I spent the whole first day I had bought it, listening to it over and over...

I like it. I wouldn't say I LOVE it.
My problem is basically that it seems that Gary's vocals are buried too deep in the mix and he is hard to hear or understand at times. The one song you can actually hear him on well, is one of my favorites off III: From Afar.

[vh3fan]

an album way ahead of its time. there will never be another vh album that sounds like this.im gonna buy this cd for my friend who is an very casual vh fan. he has only heard 1984,5150,and OU812. 3

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[Mario VH]

I like 3 and think it's a good record. It has some quality moments on it and lyrically it's one of VH's stronger efforts. It's a deeper listen and a record that doesn't blow you away on the first few listens. The first time I heard "Once" I was like what the hell is this? This sounds like Phill Collins or Genesis or something. The more I listened to the song and I mean really listened the more I liked it. I mean listen to the lyrics and tell me that they aren't amazing and inspiring. The great thing about Van Halen is that the band has evolved and changed throughout the years and it's reflective in their music. The easiest thing for Ed, Al and Mike would have been the permanent return of DLR in 96. They decided to take a risk though and go with Gary. To some it was a unmitagated disaster but to me it was just Ed wanting to branch out and do more musically. It's all about growing, changing, exploring new ideas and tapping all your creative energies. I still wish we could have heard another album with Gary. We then could truly judge his merits within VH, one album simply doesn't do him justice. Anyways having said all that I do think that VH can create some great music with David Lee Roth. Their has always been an amazing chemistry between Dave and VH and the new music will most certainly been reflective of that.

[AbeVanHalen]

I've been an avid fan for over 14 years, but VH3 is an odd subject.

At first, I simply hated it. Then, after reading Edward's comments about it, I took his advice and read the lyrics while listening, and I REALLY listened hard to the music. What I found was a superhuman level of depth to what was going on. No, I did NOT like Gary's voice on the record; No, I did not like the production (there were many technical difficulties involved which may have caused the sound problems). However, on the whole, it is a RICH recording, even though it isn't easily grasped. I can understand why many people didn't like it; I myself don't listen to it much, but it is worthy of more respect than it's gotten.