DLR/John 5 unreleased album

[Dave's Dreidel]

While in another thread, thought I would look up DLR's unreleased tunes on ASCAP for hints of his album with John 5.

Here is a list of DLR's unreleased song:

Alligator Pants - DLR only
High Fashion Girl - with J5
Lick it Up - with J5 and Bob Marlette, most likely a DLR Band leftover
Lo-Rez Sunset - DLR
Nothing Could Have Stopped Us - with J5
Wash and Fold - with J5
Walk Out - DLR
Party Time - DLR
Rainbow Bar & Grill - with J5 (supposedly the album title, and I believe he played a snippet of this on The Roth Show)
Red Bull & Pop Tarts - with J5
Shit that Killed Elvis - with J5
Smoove - DLR

So, it looks like he could release something if he wanted (or was allowed to).

[PCh5150]

While in another thread, thought I would look up DLR's unreleased tunes on ASCAP for hints of his album with John 5.

Here is a list of DLR's unreleased song:

Alligator Pants - DLR only
High Fashion Girl - with J5
Lick it Up - with J5 and Bob Marlette, most likely a DLR Band leftover
Lo-Rez Sunset - DLR
Nothing Could Have Stopped Us - with J5
Wash and Fold - with J5
Walk Out - DLR
Party Time - DLR
Rainbow Bar & Grill - with J5 (supposedly the album title, and I believe he played a snippet of this on The Roth Show)
Red Bull & Pop Tarts - with J5
Shit that Killed Elvis - with J5
Smoove - DLR

So, it looks like he could release something if he wanted (or was allowed to).

Nice Digging. I agree the track "Lick it up" is probably a DLR band leftover.

[Raldo]

Would love to hear these songs!!

[RRvh1]

Me too , Raldo !
Nice detective work , DD .

I only have EEAS , Skyscraper , and ALAE . Dave's other solo albums went pretty much under my radar , but I'd be interested in the one sitting in the can , with John 5 .

[JakeK21]

John 5 said this album has a little of everything and I totally believe that. He is one of the most versatile guitarists I've ever seen. I think I look up more videos of him playing country than anything else.

[evhintexas]

I actually messaged Dave on FB about John 5 disk about 3 months ago. The response I got was "we'll see". Two words and nothing else. So it definitely exists.

[Heisenberg]

While in another thread, thought I would look up DLR's unreleased tunes on ASCAP for hints of his album with John 5.

Here is a list of DLR's unreleased song:

Alligator Pants - DLR only
High Fashion Girl - with J5
Lick it Up - with J5 and Bob Marlette, most likely a DLR Band leftover
Lo-Rez Sunset - DLR
Nothing Could Have Stopped Us - with J5
Wash and Fold - with J5
Walk Out - DLR
Party Time - DLR
Rainbow Bar & Grill - with J5 (supposedly the album title, and I believe he played a snippet of this on The Roth Show)
Red Bull & Pop Tarts - with J5
Shit that Killed Elvis - with J5
Smoove - DLR

So, it looks like he could release something if he wanted (or was allowed to).


That's brilliant. I didn't know we had access to that.

There's even a few more song titles listed there.

- Giddy Up

- Nothing Could Have Stopped Us

-Manda Bala


Von Halen just commented about this album a couple days ago. He spoke with John 5 and asked what's going on and John 5's answer was " Dave's in Van Halen " .

[wrr20891]

John 5 was recently on That Metal Show and talked a little about the album.
Someone asked Trunk on Twitter last night if he had heard any of the DLR/John 5 tracks. Trunk said he had heard at least some of the songs that were acoustic.

[Dave's Dreidel]

Updated list!:

Alligator Pants - DLR only
High Fashion Girl - with J5
Lick it Up - with J5 and Bob Marlette, most likely a DLR Band leftover
Lo-Rez Sunset - DLR
Nothing Could Have Stopped Us - with J5
Wash and Fold - with J5
Walk Out - DLR
Party Time - DLR
Rainbow Bar & Grill - with J5 (supposedly the album title, and I believe he played a snippet of this on The Roth Show)
Red Bull & Pop Tarts - with J5
Shit that Killed Elvis - with J5
Smoove - DLR
Giddy Up - with J5
Manda Bala - with J5


That's nine unreleased tunes with John 5. Release that damn thing and go on a club tour with J5 after VH is done with the sheds this summer and early fall.

You ain't getting younger Dave. Just play your John 5 album and solo stuff.

[DFVH5150]

Updated list!:

Alligator Pants - DLR only
High Fashion Girl - with J5
Lick it Up - with J5 and Bob Marlette, most likely a DLR Band leftover
Lo-Rez Sunset - DLR
Nothing Could Have Stopped Us - with J5
Wash and Fold - with J5
Walk Out - DLR
Party Time - DLR
Rainbow Bar & Grill - with J5 (supposedly the album title, and I believe he played a snippet of this on The Roth Show)
Red Bull & Pop Tarts - with J5
Shit that Killed Elvis - with J5
Smoove - DLR
Giddy Up - with J5
Manda Bala - with J5


That's nine unreleased tunes with John 5. Release that damn thing and go on a club tour with J5 after VH is done with the sheds this summer and early fall.

You ain't getting younger Dave. Just play your John 5 album and solo stuff.

Interesting! Where'd you see this?

I saw him on TMS show just in case Trunk asked him, and he did, but no news.

I remember "Walk Out" being a Skycraper leftover. I think one of the Skyscraper bootleg CDs (that "Paradise Lost" one I believe) had that song listed as Vai's solo.

And I wonder if "Smoove" is a tribute to J.B. Smoove. Highly doubt it, but that man is quite funny in a very unique way. But Dave being a comedian himself--who knows.

[Heisenberg]

And I wonder if "Smoove" is a tribute to J.B. Smoove. Highly doubt it, but that man is quite funny in a very unique way. But Dave being a comedian himself--who knows.

Ha Ha. Love that guy he was hilarious on " Curb Your Enthusiasm ".

[Heisenberg]

There's many golden nuggets of trivial info to be found in that ASCAP site. I snooped around there yesterday. By clicking on song titles I didn't recognize found a couple fun facts.

Found out Gary Cherone's middle name is Francis.

Chad Smith's middle name is Gaylord.

This " Blood From a Stone " song title intrigued me the most. Written with Desmond Child and Glen Ballard.

It must be the song they wrote in 1996 that Dave mentioned in his book said they wrote it over the phone and he tried singing some of it but sounded horrible. Then of course it was Desmond Child who introduced EVH to Mitch Malloy.

Here's a screenshot of the listing.


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/Halenberg1984/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221244.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Halenberg1984/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221244.jpg.html)

[Heisenberg]

Searched through Micheal Anthony's song title's and looks like somehow both he and Sammy might've also been credited with EVH's soundtrack material from " The Seduction Of Gina " movie. ( ??? )


You can also see some of EVH's Wild Life composition titles.


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/Halenberg1984/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221228.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Halenberg1984/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221228.jpg.html)

[Dave's Dreidel]

Interesting! Where'd you see this?

I saw him on TMS show just in case Trunk asked him, and he did, but no news.

I remember "Walk Out" being a Skycraper leftover. I think one of the Skyscraper bootleg CDs (that "Paradise Lost" one I believe) had that song listed as Vai's solo.

And I wonder if "Smoove" is a tribute to J.B. Smoove. Highly doubt it, but that man is quite funny in a very unique way. But Dave being a comedian himself--who knows.

I have that bootleg and was thinking the same thing, but it was just "Walk Out" music, no lyrics or anything, so I wouldn't think DLR would have the only credit on it. But you may be right.

[Heisenberg]

There's numerous other things listed on the site that popped out and captured my interest. Too many to mention and post all at once. Can't copy and paste from that site it would take too long and can't post the links because you have to click the " Agree " button.

Here's one more unknown song title to me that lists DLR and Michael Anthony. ( ???? )


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/Halenberg1984/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221304.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Halenberg1984/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221304.jpg.html)

[Dave's Dreidel]

Not sure how this works, but Alex, Dave, Ed and Mike now have the only "writing" credit for Big Bad Bill.

I know the original has expired, but I didn't know that someone else could then have it. Interesting.

[Dave's Dreidel]

Just out of shits and giggles, looked up Paul McCartney.

837 songwriting credits.

DAMN!!!!

[Heisenberg]

This " Blood From a Stone " song title intrigued me the most. Written with Desmond Child and Glen Ballard.

I see now this is old news after doing a Google search found there's already old threads about it here.


http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/39794-Blood-From-a-Stone



http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/46909-Van-Halen-Mit

[Heisenberg]

Not sure how this works, but Alex, Dave, Ed and Mike now have the only "writing" credit for Big Bad Bill.

I know the original has expired, but I didn't know that someone else could then have it. Interesting.

It is interesting. Very interesting.

So many little tidbits to ponder.

Also notice the different publishing company names for ADKOT. DLR's John 5 collaborations were listed under the other publishing company name since those tunes were done before ADKOT.

[DFVH5150]

Interesting! Where'd you see this?

Ah, sorry. Thought this was an old thread and that track listing was a new addition. Scrolled up to the top of the thread and saw that wasn't the case.

[Dave's Dreidel]

Ah, sorry. Thought this was an old thread and that track listing was a new addition. Scrolled up to the top of the thread and saw that wasn't the case.

I updated the listing with a couple songs that weren't on my original list.

[Bad to the Bone]

don't know if this was mentioned or not but John 5 was on that metal show recently and he talked a bit about the record with Dave...it was just a quick little blurb that it's done and he would like to see it released but it's not up to him (or something along those lines)

[DFVH5150]

There's numerous other things listed on the site that popped out and captured my interest. Too many to mention and post all at once. Can't copy and paste from that site it would take too long and can't post the links because you have to click the " Agree " button.

Here's one more unknown song title to me that lists DLR and Michael Anthony. ( ???? )


http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k513/Halenberg1984/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221304.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/Halenberg1984/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_221304.jpg.html)

If I remember correctly, that was one of the rumored songs from the '00-'01 sessions (VH/DLR). Other rumored ones were: "Independant's Day," "Jump to the Beat," and "Reactor," along with "Tattoo" and "She's the Woman" per Ray Luzier, which is probably correct. I still think HBSD is part of that bunch, too, because of its similarities to Dave's "Flex" and "Scarecrow" from '02.

And what's up with this under VH ASCAP:

YOUR MOVE (FR I VE SEEN ALL GOOD PEOPLE)
Work ID: 550070421

I vaguely remember hearing something about this.

Extreme has a bunch I've never heard of:

Caravan
Fallen Angels
Feed Back
India
Mi Corazoncito
Note on the Screen Door
That's on Everything

Maybe they're from their original follow-up to Punchline? Or their next album?

Under Gary Cherone:

This Is Your Life

Didn't see anything new under Sammy or Chickenfoot.

[Dave's Dreidel]

That Never Let You Go - somehow they stole something from VH, maybe better ears can hear it.


DMadykDNvbo

Songwriters
COREY MATHIS, MARCUS COOPER, SPECTACULAR SMITH, DIAMOND SMITH, JOSEPH SMITH, JASON BOYD, MICHAEL ANTHONY, DERRICK BAKER, JAMES SCHEFFER, EDWARD VAN HALEN, ALEX VAN HALEN, POOH BEAR, DAVID LEE ROTH

Published by
Lyrics © BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT US, LLC

Read more: Karl Wolf - Never Let You Go Lyrics | MetroLyrics

[PCh5150]

That Never Let You Go - somehow they stole something from VH, maybe better ears can hear it.


DMadykDNvbo

Songwriters
COREY MATHIS, MARCUS COOPER, SPECTACULAR SMITH, DIAMOND SMITH, JOSEPH SMITH, JASON BOYD, MICHAEL ANTHONY, DERRICK BAKER, JAMES SCHEFFER, EDWARD VAN HALEN, ALEX VAN HALEN, POOH BEAR, DAVID LEE ROTH

Published by
Lyrics © BMG RIGHTS MANAGEMENT US, LLC

Read more: Karl Wolf - Never Let You Go Lyrics | MetroLyrics

I don't know, but take away the echo and effects on the keyboard and it sounds like "Eddie Chords". Meaning if you played that progression on a piano, it's not that unlike his other compositions, Jump, etc.

[Heisenberg]

Found out after making the post about that song " Never Let You Go " was from a hip hop rap artist named Pretty Rickey. They sampled parts of " ATBL " on their song from 2005 which is why it shows up there in the VH listings.


http://www.whosampled.com/sample/325454/Pretty-Ricky-Never-Let-You-Go-Van-Halen-Ain't-Talkin'-'Bout-Love/

I'm guessing the other version posted above copied Little Ricky's version. ( ?? )

[RevolutionMan]

Also I don't think DLR has officially released much of the music featured in the amazing No Hold's BBQ some might be from 1996. Like his super Roth disco ELO cover, or Mustang Sally or something. I know he has played the latter since 1991 on the ALAE tour.

[vaijuju]

Not sure how this works, but Alex, Dave, Ed and Mike now have the only "writing" credit for Big Bad Bill.

I know the original has expired, but I didn't know that someone else could then have it. Interesting.

saw this :
https://www.ascap.com/Home/ace-title-search/index.aspx

other thing from "I'll wait" no MA credits but on the live album they put it


http://i19.servimg.com/u/f19/17/04/37/89/02210.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/view/17043789/1430)

[CaboChris]

I'm surprised that Ed has kept Alan Fitzgerald close, for all these years.

Given Alan's association with Sam...that goes waaay back.

[thismusicsux]

on the 3/8/15 That Metal Show John 5 was on again and talking a bit about the Dave music.

(at 19:00)
http://www.vh1.com/shows/that_metal_show/that-metal-show-episode-1403-dave-lombardo-john-5/1734684/playlist/


he also emphasizes how the new Rob Zombie live record is 1000% live with no touchups ;-)

[RRvh1]

Just out of shits and giggles, looked up Paul McCartney.

837 songwriting credits.

DAMN!!!!

Hence , his billionaire status :)

[Dave's Dreidel]

I'll say it.

I know I shouldn't, but I really dig parts of this disc. The first six songs are really good.

xd4DO7jJayQ

1. You Got the Blues Not Me - never heard it before, new to me, love it.
2. Made Up My Mind - never heard it before, love it.
3. Stay While the Night Is Young - never heard it before, love it. I think this is the album highlight.
4. Shoo Bop - Never really liked the Steve Miller version, but this is good.
5. She's Looking Good - don't love it, but it's good.
6. Soul Kitchen - really good cover, DLR should do more Doors covers, fits his voice.
7. If 6 was 9 - ok. Don't like the original that much, and this isn't as good.
8. That Beatles Tune - ok. Very few cover The Beatles and make it better. Same here.
9. Medicine Man........
10. Let It All Hang Out - I dig this tune, fits DLR.
11. Thug Pop - I like this song, but, it sounds like a demo, needed a little more polish, it stands out in comparison to the rest of the album, and not in a good way.
12. Act One........
13. Ice Cream Man. Eh. I can appreciate what he was trying to do, but a cover of a cover is, well, boring.
14. Bad Habits - good cover. Not my favorite song, but a good rendition.

[Railrunner130]

Taken at face value, I enjoyed this album.

[Heisenberg]

I always loved You Got The Blues Not Me. The way it starts out and gradually builds up is just great. Nice heavyblues based tune.

Along with Shoo Bop, Bad Habits, and She's Looking Good are the main ones I still listen to once in a while.

Most probably already know " Bad Habits " was used in Steve Martin's movie " SGT BILKO, and was intended to be on the soundtrack album but they never did release it for some reason.


The CD booklet artwork was pretty cool very colorful photography. It was the last time Neil Zlozower photographed DLR.

Here's the link to ZLOZ's site this page has 363 photos from that shoot from 2001 taken in DLR's backyard around the time of the " No Holds Barred Backyard BBQ " video shoot. Some fairly eccentric zany photography the last of the old Diamond Dave character.



http://atlasicons.photoshelter.com/search?_bqO=0&_bqH=eJwLdi0MLXN39vQMLfJPDDfzicwyCM6I9CyxrEi3MjY1t jIyNbAyNAACK894l2BnW5fEsswU7ZzUVO2i_JIMbSMDA0M1sEy 8o5.LbQmQHRrsGhTv6WIbCtKll5KWG5pTEmZYbqAW7.gcYlucm liUnAEAPH4jtA--&ppg=250

[DFVH5150]

Love "Shoo Bop" and "Stay While the Night Is Young."

[DFVH5150]

I always loved You Got The Blues Not Me. The way it starts out and gradually builds up is just great. Nice heavyblues based tune.

Along with Shoo Bop, Bad Habits, and She's Looking Good are the main ones I still listen to once in a while.

Most probably already know " Bad Habits " was used in Steve Martin's movie " SGT BILKO, and was intended to be on the soundtrack album but they never did release it for some reason.


The CD booklet artwork was pretty cool very colorful photography. It was the last time Neil Zlozower photographed DLR.

Here's the link to ZLOZ's site this page has 363 photos from that shoot from 2001 taken in DLR's backyard around the time of the " No Holds Barred Backyard BBQ " video shoot. Some fairly eccentric zany photography the last of the old Diamond Dave character.



http://atlasicons.photoshelter.com/search?_bqO=0&_bqH=eJwLdi0MLXN39vQMLfJPDDfzicwyCM6I9CyxrEi3MjY1t jIyNbAyNAACK894l2BnW5fEsswU7ZzUVO2i_JIMbSMDA0M1sEy 8o5.LbQmQHRrsGhTv6WIbCtKll5KWG5pTEmZYbqAW7.gcYlucm liUnAEAPH4jtA--&ppg=250

Thanks for posting that link. Even more BBQ pics? Jeez.

[RRvh1]

I'll say it.

I know I shouldn't, but I really dig parts of this disc. The first six songs are really good.

xd4DO7jJayQ

1. You Got the Blues Not Me - never heard it before, new to me, love it.
2. Made Up My Mind - never heard it before, love it.
3. Stay While the Night Is Young - never heard it before, love it. I think this is the album highlight.
4. Shoo Bop - Never really liked the Steve Miller version, but this is good.
5. She's Looking Good - don't love it, but it's good.
6. Soul Kitchen - really good cover, DLR should do more Doors covers, fits his voice.
7. If 6 was 9 - ok. Don't like the original that much, and this isn't as good.
8. That Beatles Tune - ok. Very few cover The Beatles and make it better. Same here.
9. Medicine Man........
10. Let It All Hang Out - I dig this tune, fits DLR.
11. Thug Pop - I like this song, but, it sounds like a demo, needed a little more polish, it stands out in comparison to the rest of the album, and not in a good way.
12. Act One........
13. Ice Cream Man. Eh. I can appreciate what he was trying to do, but a cover of a cover is, well, boring.
14. Bad Habits - good cover. Not my favorite song, but a good rendition. Never heard this album . I haven't listened to it at all .
Tonight won't be the night , but I might browse through some of it later on .

[Tbone]

I can't wait to hear the Over The Rainbow Bar & Grill album w/John5. He is a really interesting player and from what I've seen and read a really nice guy.

I enjoy the Diamond Dave album myself. When it came out I thought it was a fun little album.
I remember a few years back I was on a road trip and had my library on shuffle and it landed on Act One... (you know the track that only has Dave playing bongos and laughing like a freak) and I didn't remember or immediately recognize it and laughed aloud and turned to my fiancé who was looking at me like 'WTF is this?' and I said "There's no telling how much cocaine went into the making of this song."

[Who Wrote This?]

Thanks for link to Atlas Icons, cool pics.

[bklynboy68]

Oct. 30, 2015


John 5, has spoken in more detail about new album he recorded with VAN HALEN singer David Lee Roth, which he says is "great" and which he hopes to release at some point in the near future.

John 5, who got his first big break playing on Roth's solo album, "DLR Band", before landing stints with Marilyn Manson and now Zombie, told Jude Gold of Guitar Player magazine (hear audio below): "[Roth and I] did another record just recently — you know, now, I guess, a couple of years ago, or a year ago. I would just go to his house and I'd write these songs with him, and he would say, 'Let's go into the studio.' So he would go to Henson studio and record these songs. They came out… They're so good. They're so good. And we've got Gregg Bissonette playing drums on it, and I played the bass, and they're really great songs."

John 5 recounted one particularly funny episode that happened during the recording sessions for his latest collaboration with Roth. He said: "We [originally laid down all the guitar tracks] without click. 'Cause [Dave] wanted that natural feel. And I was, like, 'Great.' And he wanted to get drums on and some percussion, and the engineer was, like, 'Well, we're really gonna need click.' And I'm leaving for a tour with Zombie in, like, 40 hours… So [Dave] called me and he said, 'John, you've gotta come in and record the whole record again with click.' Now, we're talking overdubs, harmonies, doubling… everything. And I said, 'Dave, I'm going on tour in, like, 20 hours.' [He said] 'You've gotta do it. You've gotta come in and redo these guitars on the whole record.' Anybody else, I'd be, like, 'You crazy,' but it's Diamond Dave, and so I was, like, 'Okay.' So I went in there — I was exhausted — and I played this record to the click — everything; all the harmonies… everything. And [I] did it to click."

John 5 added that the album "is so great" and expressed hope that Dave will release it one day. He said: "I know one thing: Dave loves the record. He loves the record. But he's doing VAN HALEN, which is doing great too. So we'll see what happens in the future."

The guitarist said that Roth's vocals on the album sound "like nothing you've ever heard. It's old VAN HALEN — sounds like 'Could This Be Magic?' or anything like that. It's just that sound, that tone."

John 5 has been playing in Rob Zombie's band since 2005 and has been the longest-running member of the group.

John 5 released his eighth solo album, titled "Careful With That Axe", in August 2014.


www.blabbermouth.net/news/john-5-says-new-album-he-recorded-with-david-lee-roth-is-so-great/#Qw7L8W7Oqiq1VRH7.99

[Raldo]

Would love to hear this album!!!

[Little Dreamer]

From what he's saying, it's another record, distinct from the first one.

[RRvh1]

Now that the VH tour is over, are people going to hear this Roth w/John 5 album? He seems to be mentioning it fair bit lately...

[bklynboy68]

This won't see the light of day until VH hangs it up for good. IMHO

[10after12]

This won't see the light of day until VH hangs it up for good. IMHO

You could be right (knowing what a dick EVH can be) but I certainly hope not. Would love to hear this. Especially in this century.

[RRvh1]

This won't see the light of day until VH hangs it up for good. IMHO
Or hangs it up with Dave! LOL.

Seriously though, if they aren't going to release another platter w/Roth, then I think it would be petty for Ed just forbid the album from being heard.

[DFVH5150]

I always say the more the better with how many songs are on an album, but I think "DLR Band" would have been better and more acclaimed if it were tightened up:

1. Slam Dunk!
2. Relentless
3. Lose the Dress (Keep the Shoes)
4. Little Texas
5. King of the Hill
6. Going Places...
7. Wa Wa Zat!!
8. Indeedido
9. Weekend with the Babysitter
10. Tight
11. Black Sand

Another good idea would be an album where Terry Kilgore writes a lot of the songs and John 5 plays, because I think he writes great music. He's too old-looking though and unfortunately that matters in the biz.

Either way, man I hope we get to hear "Over the Rainbow Bar & Grill" or whatever it's called sooner than later.

[10after12]

I always say the more the better with how many songs are on an album, but I think "DLR Band" would have been better and more acclaimed if it were tightened up.

Agreed. It definitely needed better production to be the good album that it was/should be. Dave's vocals needed help bigtime. The album needed to be more "in your face" imo.

[DFVH5150]

Agreed. It definitely needed better production to be the good album that it was/should be. Dave's vocals needed help bigtime. The album needed to be more "in your face" imo.

That, too.

[Little Dreamer]

If EVH lets his son release a solo record, but Roth "can't", things are going to get even weirder and stupider.

[Uncle C]

From what he's saying, it's another record, distinct from the first one.
That's kinda what it sounds like to me too, but it could be that his timing is a bit off in the interview.

[Dave's Dreidel]

From what he's saying, it's another record, distinct from the first one.

It's an older interview reprinted. This is not an additional record on top of "Sunset Bar and Grill" (correct title?).

When he references "another" album with DLR, he is referencing DLR Band.

[evhintexas]

https://youtu.be/D4nTouLR2xo

Anyone know anything about this ?

[bklynboy68]

JOHN 5 'Learned So Much' From DAVID LEE ROTH

February 6, 2019


Former MARILYN MANSON and current ROB ZOMBIE guitarist John 5 says that he "learned so much" from VAN HALEN frontman David Lee Roth.

John 5, whose first "big break" came when he was selected by Roth to play lead guitar on the critically well-received 1998 release "DLR Band", spoke about his collaboration with the iconic singer during a recent interview with the "Cobras & Fire" podcast.

The axeman, who will release his new solo album, "Invasion", this summer, said: "[Dave] just wanted to make a kickass heavy rock record — kind of like the old VAN HALEN. He always described… 'Cause we did our record live. And he said, 'We're gonna do it just like VAN HALEN did back in the day. We're gonna do it live.' He wanted everything like that — just really live-sounding and not a lot of overdubs, and just hit it hard in the studio like that, which was really cool."

Asked if he got any life advice from Dave while they were working together, John 5 said: "Oh my God! All the time. Yeah, I learned so much from Dave. He's super knowledgable. I mean, he's been doing this since '77. And he's been famous since probably '78. And he knows the road — he's paved it. So he's definitely an inspiring, inspiring person, that's for sure."



http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/john-5-learned-so-much-from-david-lee-roth/

[RRvh1]

https://youtu.be/D4nTouLR2xo

Anyone know anything about this ?

I know that I still haven't clicked on to listen to it... :D

[Dave's Dreidel]

https://youtu.be/D4nTouLR2xo

Anyone know anything about this ?

Some of what is in it is inaccurate.

1. This song is called "Mississippi Power", not "I'm afraid to die" a cool tune. It was on the Japanese import of YFLM. Great tune, should have been on all versions.
2. Private Parts is the demo of a song that was to be on Howard Stern's movie soundtrack. Stern felt there was too much VH on his soundtrack already, so he left it off. DLR re-did the vocals a bit and released it as "Tight" on DLR Band.
3. Just a cover of Crosstown Traffic. Dave in some interviews has said he has done hundreds of cover songs that he just recorded for fun. Would assume this is one of them that is in the DLR Archives.
4. "Shine the Light" was from the YFLM sessions. I always liked it. Another song that should have been on the album over other tunes on there.
5. "Cruel Obsession" is again from the YFLM sessions. Like this song a LOT, always have. Again, should have been on the album proper.
6. "Kill the Guy", I remember this song was discussed once and I think it is a cover of something, but I can't remember.

Might not all be 100% accurate, but I think that is the gist of it.

[Dave's Dreidel]

I know that I still haven't clicked on to listen to it... :D

Songs 1 and 5 are worthwhile to check out, good tunes. The rest? Eh.

[DFVH5150]

I think I heard "Crosstown" (and "Kicks" for that matter) were leftover from CFTH.

"Shine the Light" was written by the Granati Brothers (G-Force, who used to open for VH) and was a collaboration between them and DLR. I heard it was around '92.

And I'm assuming "Kill the Guy" inspired the updated "Bullethead" lyrics.

[DFVH5150]

Songs 1 and 5 are worthwhile to check out, good tunes. The rest? Eh.

No love for "Shine the Light?" LOVE that song.

[Darrin Stephens]

Dave's "vault" of unreleased tracks is very significant. He recorded a ton of material 2002-2007 and I think it is his best work but very little as seen the light of day. He has a small studio in his basement where he will jam out tunes with a small circle of friends. When in Cali he tends to be a homebody contrary to the view he is always seeking the spotlight. I'm sure eventually those will come out and the acoustic stuff is really good. When in creative mode he is a pretty fast writer. I hope it does because his voice in that 03-07 period was so so good and he was on his game.

[Dave's Dreidel]

No love for "Shine the Light?" LOVE that song.

I like it, but I was writing to my audience, my guess would be he wouldn't like that one.

[T.B.]

His new tune is not good. Funny thing about the video, it kind of reminds me of Roth's BBQ videos:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15WA_du4UHc

[Raldo]

His new tune is not good. Funny thing about the video, it kind of reminds me of Roth's BBQ videos:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15WA_du4UHc

Sounds a little like It’s About Time.

[Dave's Dreidel]

I like John 5 but that was not good at all, couldn't even make it through the whole thing. Yikes.

[T.B.]

On the other hand, there's this performance late last week:


https://youtu.be/ouUHwCsmqi0

[Heisenberg]

4. "Shine the Light" was from the YFLM sessions. I always liked it. Another song that should have been on the album over other tunes on





"Shine the Light" was written by the Granati Brothers (G-Force, who used to open for VH) and was a collaboration between them and DLR. I heard it was around '92.


No love for "Shine the Light?" LOVE that song.


Hang Tight- This " Shine a Light " caught my eyes now...& I just Googled to doublecheck....

It's an ELO tune from their 1979 album titled " Discovery"....

It's on the BBQ video...

No idea about Granati Brothers or YFLM...(???)

Unless there's 2 Unreleased DLR tunes with the " Shine" in the song title...( ???):confused:

[T.B.]

Hang Tight- This " Shine a Light " caught my eyes now...& I just Googled to doublecheck....

It's an ELO tune from their 1979 album titled " Discovery"....

It's on the BBQ video...

No idea about Granati Brothers or YFLM...(???)

Unless there's 2 Unreleased DLR tunes with the " Shine" in the song title...( ???):confused:

The demo is a completely different song from the BBQ video cover of the ELO tune.

[Dave's Dreidel]

The demo is a completely different song from the BBQ video cover of the ELO tune.

This.

DLR did cover the ELO song (it isn't bad), but Shine the Light is a different tune.

[Heisenberg]

Ok thanks. That explains that.

I'll check it out. Could be I have it fuck if I know.

I have one main DLR playlist that I LOVE to death play it quite frequently when in the right mood.


BAKER STREET is the first tune...followed by....

TIN CUP CHALICE.....which is very dear to my heart as Jimmy Buffetts 1974 album A1A is one of my all time top favorites....

Coconut Grove is on there....

As well as James Browns I'll Go Crazy from 19888 live bootleg...plus lots of other stuff...

But no Shine a light tune....yet.

[Dave's Dreidel]

If you are technologically challenged and can't find it anywhere let me know, I think I can post it on here.

Have done it before.

[bklynboy68]

Hear Snippet Of DAVID LEE ROTH's Unreleased Album With JOHN 5

May 10, 2019


ROB ZOMBIE guitarist John 5 has unveiled a snippet of the unreleased album he recorded with David Lee Roth.

John 5, who got his first big break playing on Roth's solo album, "DLR Band", before landing stints with Marilyn Manson and now Zombie, played a 40-second sample of a track from the disc during a recent interview with Masters Of Shred. You can hear it in the YouTube clip below starting at around the 22:49 mark.

John 5 told Metal Titans that he is hopeful that fans will get to hear his latest collaboration with the iconic VAN HALEN frontman.

"I think it will see the light of day," he said. "I'm banking on it, because it's such a great record.

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"I can't say for sure, but I think Dave is working with VAN HALEN right now, which is wonderful," he continued. "I'm happy for him. That's one of my favorite bands.

"I think it will come out when Dave is ready to release it.

"I think you'll love it. It's a wonderful record. I'm so proud of the album."

Back in 2015, John 5 told Guitar Player magazine that the sessions for his latest Roth album — which apparently took place at least five years ago — were remarkably relaxed. "I would just go to his house and I'd write these songs with him, and he would say, 'Let's go into the studio,'" John 5 explained. "So he would go to Henson studio and record these songs. They came out… They're so good. They're so good. And we've got Gregg Bissonette playing drums on it, and I played the bass, and they're really great songs."

John 5 recounted one particularly funny episode that happened during the recording sessions for his latest collaboration with Roth. He said: "We [originally laid down all the guitar tracks] without click. 'Cause [Dave] wanted that natural feel. And I was, like, 'Great.' And he wanted to get drums on and some percussion, and the engineer was, like, 'Well, we're really gonna need click.' And I'm leaving for a tour with Zombie in, like, 40 hours… So [Dave] called me and he said, 'John, you've gotta come in and record the whole record again with click.' Now, we're talking overdubs, harmonies, doubling… everything. And I said, 'Dave, I'm going on tour in, like, 20 hours.' [He said] 'You've gotta do it. You've gotta come in and redo these guitars on the whole record.' Anybody else, I'd be, like, 'You crazy,' but it's Diamond Dave, and so I was, like, 'Okay.' So I went in there — I was exhausted — and I played this record to the click — everything; all the harmonies… everything. And did it to click."

The guitarist said that Roth's vocals on the album sound "like nothing you've ever heard. It's old VAN HALEN — sounds like 'Could This Be Magic?' or anything like that. It's just that sound, that tone."

In a 2014 interview with "One On One With Mitch Lafon", John 5 described the LP as "11 of the greatest songs you'll ever hear, and it's just me and Dave, and we had Gregg Bissonette play drums on it. And it's unbelievable," he said. "There's a song called 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow Bar & Grill'. And you know, just great, great songs."

John 5 has been playing in Rob Zombie's band since 2005 and has been the longest-running member of the group.

John 5 will release his new solo album, titled "Invasion", this summer.


22:49

https://youtu.be/pNEmEyES_XQ



[I]It’s just a snippet, but it sounds damn good.

[Darrin Stephens]

Hear Snippet Of DAVID LEE ROTH's Unreleased Album With JOHN 5

May 10, 2019


ROB ZOMBIE guitarist John 5 has unveiled a snippet of the unreleased album he recorded with David Lee Roth.

John 5, who got his first big break playing on Roth's solo album, "DLR Band", before landing stints with Marilyn Manson and now Zombie, played a 40-second sample of a track from the disc during a recent interview with Masters Of Shred. You can hear it in the YouTube clip below starting at around the 22:49 mark.

John 5 told Metal Titans that he is hopeful that fans will get to hear his latest collaboration with the iconic VAN HALEN frontman.

"I think it will see the light of day," he said. "I'm banking on it, because it's such a great record.

Story continues after advertisement
"I can't say for sure, but I think Dave is working with VAN HALEN right now, which is wonderful," he continued. "I'm happy for him. That's one of my favorite bands.

"I think it will come out when Dave is ready to release it.

"I think you'll love it. It's a wonderful record. I'm so proud of the album."

Back in 2015, John 5 told Guitar Player magazine that the sessions for his latest Roth album — which apparently took place at least five years ago — were remarkably relaxed. "I would just go to his house and I'd write these songs with him, and he would say, 'Let's go into the studio,'" John 5 explained. "So he would go to Henson studio and record these songs. They came out… They're so good. They're so good. And we've got Gregg Bissonette playing drums on it, and I played the bass, and they're really great songs."

John 5 recounted one particularly funny episode that happened during the recording sessions for his latest collaboration with Roth. He said: "We [originally laid down all the guitar tracks] without click. 'Cause [Dave] wanted that natural feel. And I was, like, 'Great.' And he wanted to get drums on and some percussion, and the engineer was, like, 'Well, we're really gonna need click.' And I'm leaving for a tour with Zombie in, like, 40 hours… So [Dave] called me and he said, 'John, you've gotta come in and record the whole record again with click.' Now, we're talking overdubs, harmonies, doubling… everything. And I said, 'Dave, I'm going on tour in, like, 20 hours.' [He said] 'You've gotta do it. You've gotta come in and redo these guitars on the whole record.' Anybody else, I'd be, like, 'You crazy,' but it's Diamond Dave, and so I was, like, 'Okay.' So I went in there — I was exhausted — and I played this record to the click — everything; all the harmonies… everything. And did it to click."

The guitarist said that Roth's vocals on the album sound "like nothing you've ever heard. It's old VAN HALEN — sounds like 'Could This Be Magic?' or anything like that. It's just that sound, that tone."

In a 2014 interview with "One On One With Mitch Lafon", John 5 described the LP as "11 of the greatest songs you'll ever hear, and it's just me and Dave, and we had Gregg Bissonette play drums on it. And it's unbelievable," he said. "There's a song called 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow Bar & Grill'. And you know, just great, great songs."

John 5 has been playing in Rob Zombie's band since 2005 and has been the longest-running member of the group.

John 5 will release his new solo album, titled "Invasion", this summer.


22:49

https://youtu.be/pNEmEyES_XQ



[I]It’s just a snippet, but it sounds damn good.If you see John in a club he is not shy about playing it, lol. Good on him

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[Dave's Dreidel]

Super small snippet, but DLR has a trend in his songwriting where he is trying to slam as many words as he can into a line. Don't think it always works, especially on first listen.

[Little Dreamer]

Sounds like "Damn Good," the song, and that's one of the best Roth solo song.

I'm wondering who is preventing this from being released. Hopefully not someone with a dutch last name.

[Raldo]

Cool tune!!

[Dave's Dreidel]

Sounds like "Damn Good," the song, and that's one of the best Roth solo song.

I'm wondering who is preventing this from being released. Hopefully not someone with a dutch last name.

Not actively I bet, but I also bet that DLR knows it would go over like a lead balloon up on the mountain, so he just lets that dog lie.

[DFVH5150]

This.

DLR did cover the ELO song (it isn't bad), but Shine the Light is a different tune.

Love that "Shine a Little Love" cover! Such a fun summer tune when DLR sings it.

[Little Dreamer]

Not actively I bet, but I also bet that DLR knows it would go over like a lead balloon up on the mountain, so he just lets that dog lie.

That's a stupid bet. What if the guys are done but just haven't told anyone. Dave would be withholding the music for nothing.

[bklynboy68]

That would mean Dave doesn't know what's going on with the band. If Alex and Ed were totally done he would know. This idea that Dave has no clue of anything going on within the band is silly.

I would love to hear that DLR/John 5 album but I can wait.

[JUNGLE DRUMMER]

That would mean Dave doesn't know what's going on with the band. If Alex and Ed were totally done he would know. This idea that Dave has no clue of anything going on within the band is silly.

I would love to hear that DLR/John 5 album but I can wait.

Lol, yep the idea that some of the chuckleheads have on here that Dave is some sort of slave of Ed and Al's is as ridiculous as anything that's ever been posted here.

[Sam Vs. Dave]

Lol, yep the idea that some of the chuckleheads have on here that Dave is some sort of slave of Ed and Al's is as ridiculous as anything that's ever been posted here.

Well slave is a strong term, but do you think Dave has said and done everything he wanted to say and do since 2007? Do you think Dave has written, recorded and released everything he wanted to write, record and release since 2007? Do you think Dave has performed as much as he would have liked to have performed (outside of Van Halen) since 2007. Seems unlikely to me, but I don't personally know the guy...

[Dave's Dreidel]

That's a stupid bet. What if the guys are done but just haven't told anyone. Dave would be withholding the music for nothing.

You really think Ed and Al have shut down VH without telling DLR? C'mon man.

[edwardv]

You really think Ed and Al have shut down VH without telling DLR? C'mon man.

:funny:

[bklynboy68]

Lol, yep the idea that some of the chuckleheads have on here that Dave is some sort of slave of Ed and Al's is as ridiculous as anything that's ever been posted here.

Yeah, it's a wet dream for haters.