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axebrian
03.21.05, 01:06 PM
I know this was discussed at some length before the hack. I never really got the real deal. I know Ed was pissed, right? He stopped playing a good part of the end on "Dreams" and smashed his guitar. There was also a whip cream fight of some sort?...

Who was there?
Who knows the real story..Was it just in anger of ending it with Peavy?
Any pics of any of this?

muffdiver
03.21.05, 01:57 PM
apparently there were a lotta pranks goin' on that night....

RockGod5150
03.21.05, 02:01 PM
so was ed really pissed or was it a joke?

SuckaInA3Piece
03.21.05, 02:35 PM
Had a clip of it over at G101, and from what I could tell it was just a bunch of over blown hype, which is nothing new at the Links by the way.

I even asked Ed's tech about the alleged blow up, and he stressed that whatever it was, it wasn't due to any technical difficulties or anything like that. The fact there was a smashed up EVH Charvel with pics of Ed smiling with the guitar in pieces up on ebay, shows me that it was all just a goof. I'll see if I can find those pics for ya.

LittleGuitars99
03.21.05, 08:26 PM
Depending on who's take, it sounds like possibly tensions came to a head that night, not to mention "if" Ed is in as bad shape as we hear, I am sure that didn't help matters, but only time will tell.. Sucka, can you make out what Ed says in the mike after he totals his guitar?

vheddyrmv8
03.21.05, 09:44 PM
Had a clip of it over at G101, and from what I could tell it was just a bunch of over blown hype, which is nothing new at the Links by the way.

I even asked Ed's tech about the alleged blow up, and he stressed that whatever it was, it wasn't due to any technical difficulties or anything like that. The fact there was a smashed up EVH Charvel with pics of Ed smiling with the guitar in pieces up on ebay, shows me that it was all just a goof. I'll see if I can find those pics for ya.

I had read an article about the last night that the 5 star package people said when asked if any pranks were gonna go down, they said "You don't want to be in the bathroom during Right Now." Didn't he break a guitar during right now?
Pete Townsend broke guitars all of the time. It's just the media looking for any sign of VH to break up again. I've seen that pic of Ed with the broken guitar. Mike has a pic of him ripping the strings off of a bass. If something was seriously wrong, I think we would of found out by now.

OLO
03.21.05, 10:39 PM
I forget who is was but they were backstage.....maybe it was Sams nephue. He said something to the affect that Ed was hammered and picking fights with everyone that was in staggering distance. He also mentioned something about Ed rubbing lemons into his eye's.

axebrian
03.22.05, 06:00 AM
I forget who is was but they were backstage.....maybe it was Sams nephue. He said something to the affect that Ed was hammered and picking fights with everyone that was in staggering distance. He also mentioned something about Ed rubbing lemons into his eye's.
WHOAAA! :wtf: Ed rubbing lemons into his eye's???
OLO, are you talking about 9on10scale being back stage?

axebrian
03.22.05, 06:08 AM
Had a clip of it over at G101, and from what I could tell it was just a bunch of over blown hype, which is nothing new at the Links by the way.

I even asked Ed's tech about the alleged blow up, and he stressed that whatever it was, it wasn't due to any technical difficulties or anything like that. The fact there was a smashed up EVH Charvel with pics of Ed smiling with the guitar in pieces up on ebay, shows me that it was all just a goof. I'll see if I can find those pics for ya.
I think I remember reading that interview you did with Ed's tech. Wasn't he the guy that's been a tech for several other big names?
Thanks Sucka, It would be cool to see the pics!

James in New York
03.22.05, 08:07 AM
Yeah, Eddie screamed at everyone backstage and told Sammy he loves him and then would curse him out and even went after Mike and Mike went back at him...and he was yelling about the writing all over his body and Sammy tuned to his nephew with a look like "see what I have to put up with"...

And at dinner that night with Mike and 9on10scale Sammy said if that fucker doesn't get 3 months of therapy I'm not going back...

RockGod5150
03.22.05, 09:17 AM
Yeah, Eddie screamed at everyone backstage and told Sammy he loves him and then would curse him out and even went after Mike and Mike went back at him...and he was yelling about the writing all over his body and Sammy tuned to his nephew with a look like "see what I have to put up with"...

And at dinner that night with Mike and 9on10scale Sammy said if that fucker doesn't get 3 months of therapy I'm not going back...
i really dont want to nor do i beleieve this

axebrian
03.22.05, 09:26 AM
Yeah, Eddie screamed at everyone backstage and told Sammy he loves him and then would curse him out and even went after Mike and Mike went back at him...and he was yelling about the writing all over his body and Sammy tuned to his nephew with a look like "see what I have to put up with"...

And at dinner that night with Mike and 9on10scale Sammy said if that fucker doesn't get 3 months of therapy I'm not going back...
I'd really like to hear 9's story on this.
9 posted the comment below in another thread. If anyone is going to the Tahoe show, please look him up and maybe see what he says.

Have been doing a whole lot of nothing. Spoke with Sammy last week and nothing new. Has not spoken much to the brothers. He will be doing his little tour coming up. I will be in Tahoe so anyone going look me up and say hello. When I have good news you all will be the first to know.
so what is the latest and greatest rumor out these days?

SuckaInA3Piece
03.22.05, 10:58 AM
Depending on who's take, it sounds like possibly tensions came to a head that night, not to mention "if" Ed is in as bad shape as we hear, I am sure that didn't help matters, but only time will tell.. Sucka, can you make out what Ed says in the mike after he totals his guitar?

Haven't seen it in awhile, but I don't remember being able to make out what he's saying. He's always mumbled into the mic though, so that's nothing new.

vheddyrmv8
03.22.05, 07:01 PM
On the chat with Ed's tech, it said only the trem and something else was broken off of the green peavy, and I may be no guitar expert but that's not totaled. It seems like a joke kind of to me if it took that little damage.

ericjt
03.23.05, 06:16 AM
Ed smashed his guitar (ala Townsend) at the end of Right Now. Since Ed hasn't said anything about it, no one knows exactly. Theories range from Ed being drunk, mad at someone in the band, mad at someone else back stage, mad at Peavey (it would later be revealed that Ed fired Peavey), or it just being a standard last night of the tour prank.

Believe what you want to believe.

Remember this though. They came back out and played the usual 3 encores after this incident.

jimmy
03.23.05, 06:52 AM
Ed was hammered, destroyed a guitar which is unusual for him and he was rubbing lemons in his eyes......sounds like a party to me.

axebrian
03.25.05, 07:32 AM
A big thanks to skyburst38 for reposting 9on10scale's take on the last night of 2004 tour.

skyburst wrote
I saved a copy of this thread that was written by 9on10scale, Sammy's nephew

I will type it just like he wrote it
"Well wwhere do I start? First I am thankful this reuion did happen becaue I forgot how great a band actually can be while playing together)the show in Phoenix) back in August might have been one of the best Van Halen shows I have ever seen and I have seen close to 50. But after Friday night I personally will be content with Sam and Mikey. I get in free and get the royal treatment but you the fans who shell out allot and I mean allot of gash to have to put up with fucking drunk idiot is in my opionion a travesty. The man was shit faced around noon, when to be woke up and drank again. He started a fight with Sam, Mike, Irving and all of us in the dressing room prior to the show. No reason just a drunked fool. Sammy turnned and looked at me and said "now you see why this is so fucking hard to do" man I do this for fun and this just isn't fun! Mikey tried ot ignore it but finally had words with Ed also. As he walked around back int he dressing rooms punching walls and rubbing a raw lemon in his eyes and all over his face wiched was drawned on with black marker(he didn't even know who did it)? I will say this, this is is the honest truth, Ed acting out was his way to tell Sammy he doesn't want him to leave. A couple of times during the fight he sould say Sam ou just don't udnerstand me and I love you man. Then he would call him names and all kinds of stuff. It's like dealing with a 2 year old. I won't go into the show right now later I will, after the show, Ed left instantly and I had dinner with Mike and Sam. They both were very emotional that Mike and Sam care about the whole crew, Sammy gave 8 cases of signed Cabo Wabo to them and promised one way or another that they would work together againl I am in a hurry right now so I will try and put down more later. The only good things that was said the whole night was by Sammy "if the funker goes into treatment for about 4 months then we can talk!!" Outside of the boys in my opinion its done!"

I think that there is a followup thread to this where 9of10scale says that he may have been a little harsh and that Eddie has to make some tough decisions and that they may all work together again. Correct me if I am wrong.

stilleddiesangel
03.25.05, 07:34 AM
Pics from ebay of broken charvel...

http://i137.exs.cx/img137/2350/charvel28uk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us) http://i137.exs.cx/img137/4002/charvel36wl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

axebrian
03.25.05, 07:48 AM
Hey angel, do you know when those photos were taken?

ericjt
03.25.05, 09:41 AM
What did Ed write on the guitar?
Something about "equipment failure" and something that looks like "was not good hood"

I'd have to take a look at the pics again, but I thought he smashed a green wolfgang in Tuscon.

BREW CREW
03.25.05, 09:51 AM
It looks like he wrote "I stomped out the neck and destroyed guitar equipment failure was not in a good mood."

skyburst38
03.26.05, 02:00 AM
I typed that so quickly a while back, that I made a few mistakes typing that night.......so in the spirit of accuracy and precision.......I will re-type it now because it's the weekend, I don't have to work tomorrow and can stay up late!!!
This version will be typed EXACTLY like 9on10scale typed it without any of MY mistakes.........the mispelled typos are his.

"Well where do I start? First I am thankful this reuion did happen because I forgot how great a band actually can be while playing together (the show in Phoenix) back in Augus might have been one of the best Van Halen shows I have ever seen and I have seen close to 50. But after Friday night I personally will be content with Sam and Mikey. I get in free and get the royal treatment but you the fans who shell out allot and I mean allot of gash to have to put up with a fucking drunk idiot is in my opionion a travesty. The man was shit faced around noon, when to bed woke up and drank again. He started a fight with Sam, Mike, Irving and all of us in the dressing room prior to the show. No reason just a drunked fool. Sammy turnned and looked at me and said "now you see why this is so fucking hard to do" man I do this for fun
and this just isn't fun! Mikey tried ot ignore it but finally had words with Ed also. As he walked around back int he dressing rooms punching walls and rubbing a raw lemon in his eyes and all over his face wiched was drawned on with black marker (he didn't even know who did it)?
I will say this, this is the honest truth, Ed acting out was his way to tell Sammy he doesn't want him to leave. A couple of times during the fight he would say Sam you just don't understand me and I love you man. The then would call him names and all kinds of stuff. It's like dealing with a 2 year old.
I wont go into the show right now later I will, after the show, Ed left instanly and I had dinner with Mike and Sam, they both were very emotional that it was over and as we ate dinner one by one the crew came int to say so long. It was pretty intense to see how Mike and Sam care about the whole crew, Sammy gave 8 cases of sgned Cabl Wabo to them and promisede one way or
another they would work together again. I am in a hurry right now so I will try and put down more later. The only good thing that was said the whole night was by Sammy "If the fucker goes into treatment for about 4 months
then we can talk"!
Out side of the boys in my opionio its done!"

I noticed I had left out a sentence in there, too, so now it is corrected and
I feel better.

Iluv5150
03.26.05, 05:05 PM
This version will be typed exactly like Joe told Sam who told Larry...blah, bla blah, bla blah....Who was actually there?? Anyone??

OLO
03.26.05, 05:39 PM
This version will be typed exactly like Joe told Sam who told Larry...blah, bla blah, bla blah....Who was actually there?? Anyone??

9on10scale was there, Its his review of the day's events. Skyburst found it at another website and re-posted it here. We had it but after the HACK it along with thousands of other posts were gone.

LittleGuitars99
03.26.05, 05:53 PM
Whatever happened that night is nothing compared to the shit that went down at OLO's backyard Van Halen 04 show that's for sure.

BREW CREW
03.26.05, 06:11 PM
Whatever happened that night is nothing compared to the shit that went down at OLO's backyard Van Halen 04 show that's for sure.Yeah, I vote for that to be re-posted here! That is a VHLINKS classic!

The Dapper Don
03.26.05, 06:30 PM
"The man broke his 1st guitar & subsequently told the crowd, fucked out of his mind, that this is it, it's over-pointed to Sammy & Mike & Said, There's the King.

He broke 2 guitars on stage in pury furry. one almost went into the crowd & could of really hurt someone. He then destroyed the second one, which almost hit Sammy, who was just like, What the FUCK? Mike & Alex too. You could see their faces as Eddie made comment after comment: Pointed @ Sam & Mike & said, there's the king. Made another comment before he broke his beautiful guitar, which sounded blissful all night, throw something @ me if you don't like what I am playin'.

This is it.

It's over.

Never again." :scared:

LLFHS
03.26.05, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I vote for that to be re-posted here! That is a VHLINKS classic!


Let's hear it. I missed it the first time around.

evhslilhottie
03.26.05, 07:29 PM
Hey angel, do you know when those photos were taken?

I think it's at his house. I've seen another pic of him at home and it's in the same style.

motionblur
03.27.05, 10:26 AM
What did Ed write on the guitar?
Something about "equipment failure" and something that looks like "was not good hood"

I'd have to take a look at the pics again, but I thought he smashed a green wolfgang in Tuscon.

"I Stomped on The Neck & The Stupid Guitar

Equipment Failed

Was Not in a Good Mood"

skyburst38
03.27.05, 05:42 PM
For clarification purposes: Before the HACK where we lost all the AWESOME
tour info on here, I had printed that review by 9on10scale to keep in my scrapbook.
So, I actually got it from this website originally. He was there and wrote that within a few days after "THE EVENT". He is a VERY reliable source,
he is Sammy's nephew and ONLY occasionally posts here.
So, this is not a rumor or speculation and OLO concurs, so you know it's
fact....."smile". OLO is also reliable.
If others have a hard time accepting that "the hero" has issues related to his alcoholism and find denial of reality easier, then that is their issue.
Sometimes people have a hard time dealing with the reality when their "idols" have serious problems. The brain is great at denial.

vhin04
03.27.05, 07:29 PM
The guitar in that picture is from the Hamilton show a few weeks before the final show in Tucson. I had a 5 star for that show and had front row seats. During Up For Breakfast, Eddie lay down on the ground right near me. Anyway, his chord came out of the guitar and he couldn't get it back in as the song started. He got really upset and went beside his cabinets to go off stage to get another guitar and before he got the new one, he smashed the Charvel. The winning bidder on that guitar got the broken neck, plus a new one with the guitar fixed up properly and everything, and the message written on the body by Eddie.

axebrian
03.28.05, 08:37 AM
The guitar in that picture is from the Hamilton show a few weeks before the final show in Tucson. I had a 5 star for that show and had front row seats. During Up For Breakfast, Eddie lay down on the ground right near me. Anyway, his chord came out of the guitar and he couldn't get it back in as the song started. He got really upset and went beside his cabinets to go off stage to get another guitar and before he got the new one, he smashed the Charvel. The winning bidder on that guitar got the broken neck, plus a new one with the guitar fixed up properly and everything, and the message written on the body by Eddie.
How mich did the winning bidder pay?

jimmy
03.28.05, 05:35 PM
Today I watched an MPEG video of Ed destroying his guitar at the final show.....he just looked pissed, smashed the hell out of it...thru it in Sam's directions, just looked around, gestured towards Sam and said something into the mic....waved at the crow and calmly walked off of stage.

OLO
03.28.05, 06:23 PM
Ed was pissed at the Lemons.

vheddyrmv8
03.28.05, 10:39 PM
Today I watched an MPEG video of Ed destroying his guitar at the final show.....he just looked pissed, smashed the hell out of it...thru it in Sam's directions, just looked around, gestured towards Sam and said something into the mic....waved at the crow and calmly walked off of stage.

Where did you find that, any chance I could get a glimpse of it??

markp
06.29.05, 06:52 PM
Today I watched an MPEG video of Ed destroying his guitar at the final show.....he just looked pissed, smashed the hell out of it...thru it in Sam's directions, just looked around, gestured towards Sam and said something into the mic....waved at the crow and calmly walked off of stage.
Is THIS THE VIDEO (http://video.google.com/videopreviewbig?q=van+halen&time=0&page=1&docid=-3069934058069475493&urlcreated=1120092533&chan=Uploaded&prog=Eddie+Van+Halen+Smashing&date=Thu+Jun+16+2005+at+8%3A05+PM+PDT) you saw? Thumbs up Eddie.

voivod
06.29.05, 07:05 PM
oh - he looks real pissed.... :rolleyes:
flailing-arms drunk, perhaps... :brickwall

Brand X
07.28.05, 03:16 PM
Oh my god - I've just saw the video....was that it? That is what all the posts, theories. counter - theories have been about??!!?!? Jesus - that was NOTHING! Why do people be as pessimistic as possible about this band? That truly was the biggest let down - after all the posts I was expecting Ed to be running around naked, with Devil horns growing out his head, salivating at the mouth with both fists clenched ready to take on the rest of the band.....jesus - he even smiles and gives a thumbs up at the end.

What is wrong with people?

LittleGuitars99
07.28.05, 05:06 PM
Ed was pissed at the Lemons.

:funny: Yeah, those fuckers can sure get out of hand..

snare812
07.28.05, 08:37 PM
can some one please post that vid somewhere else . I have a mac and it wont let me download that google thing. Or if someone can email it to gmoneypower@gmail.com that would great be appreciated as well
thanks

Jeanette
07.29.05, 02:20 AM
can some one please post that vid somewhere else . I have a mac and it wont let me download that google thing. Or if someone can email it to gmoneypower@gmail.com that would great be appreciated as well
thanks

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HEY!!! I can't view it either! :(
Somebody PLEASE...(I know there are great computer techs on this board)...please post it somewhere that we can view it with Media Player or Real Player. I've wondered about this incident since I first heard about it.
I still believe 9's comments about the backstage stuff though.
Thanks !!!!!

JA :)

stilleddiesangel
07.29.05, 08:20 AM
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HEY!!! I can't view it either! :(
Somebody PLEASE...(I know there are great computer techs on this board)...please post it somewhere that we can view it with Media Player or Real Player. I've wondered about this incident since I first heard about it.
I still believe 9's comments about the backstage stuff though.
Thanks !!!!!

JA :)

It's not that big a deal to be honest. A bit of Pete Townsend. I suppose the thought of Ed doing something like that, which he's never really done before seems strange to some,. All I can think is "Ed NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!.. That lovely Wolfgang!!!!" :D

Hotlantadude1981
07.30.05, 01:49 AM
I think Ed is frustrated... He was headed in a direction that most
haven't accepted and I think that has got to him alittle bit. To
me, even IAT and LTS isn't old Van Halen like.... Listen to the
instrumental from Twister.... It's ashame things haven't worked
out better.

Pacfanweb
07.30.05, 09:21 AM
i really dont want to nor do i beleieve this
It's true.

smithjc
08.01.05, 05:31 PM
Oh my god - I've just saw the video....was that it? That is what all the posts, theories. counter - theories have been about??!!?!? Jesus - that was NOTHING! Why do people be as pessimistic as possible about this band? That truly was the biggest let down - after all the posts I was expecting Ed to be running around naked, with Devil horns growing out his head, salivating at the mouth with both fists clenched ready to take on the rest of the band.....jesus - he even smiles and gives a thumbs up at the end.

What is wrong with people?

My thoughts exactly altho I didn't picture a naked Edward with devil horns!! :devil:

I read all about this little outburst when it happened and had to wonder cause he seemed fine when we saw them. But now that I think about it, he did get a bit peeved at his setup which had some feedback, but that was about it. Nothing too major, least that's what I thought. Maybe this partic guitar had been troublesome all along.

He sure looked p/o'd at his guitar more than anything else. He was probably frustrated but was able to finish the show, my guess of course. But no, the snippet wasn't what I was expecting either. What did I expect?? Got me. :drunk:

He did look pretty pissed tho. They used to all stand together too at the end and bask in crowd applause. That's what they did at the show we went to. This didn't look very good. It's hard to say since I wasn't at this show and didn't see what all was goin on. Gotta feel the vibe but then I wasn't there.

Oh hell, I don't know what to make of this. :brickwall

I'm just glad he didn't have that hairdo at the show we were at!! :sssh:

gabby gabbster
08.02.05, 04:18 PM
Heh...the hairdo is pretty loony but maybe that was the point. Everyone, media included, views him as this mad genius whose gone off the deep end and he shows up on stage with this goofy samuri thing going on that could possibly mean he's just mocking us.

Man, I thought I was going to see something crazy too and it seemed almost rehearsed and not so out-of-the-ordinary for a rock concert. jeez people...

axebrian
08.04.05, 07:42 AM
Heh...the hairdo is pretty loony but maybe that was the point. Everyone, media included, views him as this mad genius whose gone off the deep end and he shows up on stage with this goofy samuri thing going on that could possibly mean he's just mocking us.

Man, I thought I was going to see something crazy too and it seemed almost rehearsed and not so out-of-the-ordinary for a rock concert. jeez people...
Ed supported that "Samuri hair doo" on many of the shows on the tour. It sure ain't his best "doo," to say the least.

snare812
08.04.05, 04:52 PM
can someone send that eddie vid to my email? I can watch it here at work. PLEEASSEEEE. Thanks!!

gmoneypower@gmail.com

thanks guys

dirtymovies
09.27.05, 05:51 PM
Ed was hammered, destroyed a guitar which is unusual for him and he was rubbing lemons in his eyes......sounds like a party to me.

lmao

dirtymovies
09.27.05, 05:54 PM
Had a clip of it over at G101, and from what I could tell it was just a bunch of over blown hype, which is nothing new at the Links by the way.

I even asked Ed's tech about the alleged blow up, and he stressed that whatever it was, it wasn't due to any technical difficulties or anything like that. The fact there was a smashed up EVH Charvel with pics of Ed smiling with the guitar in pieces up on ebay, shows me that it was all just a goof. I'll see if I can find those pics for ya.

gottalink? or should we troll the site? :p ;)

5150rob
09.30.05, 05:32 PM
I think we all know that Ed and Sam were not getting along especially since Sam said so in the last million interviews he has done and that Ed is a miserable human being and they almost came to blows on the last show and that they had to go off different directions off the stage or they would have come to blows.
But it seems to me that the last show Ed was just letting off steam and smashing the guitar was just his way of letting loose and having some fun.
I do hope Ed and Sam can mend their differences and at least get along. I love the Roth VH years and would love to see a VH tour with Dave again but I still LOVE the Sam VH too and I just would like to see it go out on a good note.
my 2 cents,
Rob

AT
12.21.06, 02:59 AM
I think we all know that Ed and Sam were not getting along especially since Sam said so in the last million interviews he has done and that Ed is a miserable human being and they almost came to blows on the last show and that they had to go off different directions off the stage or they would have come to blows.
But it seems to me that the last show Ed was just letting off steam and smashing the guitar was just his way of letting loose and having some fun.
I do hope Ed and Sam can mend their differences and at least get along. I love the Roth VH years and would love to see a VH tour with Dave again but I still LOVE the Sam VH too and I just would like to see it go out on a good note.
my 2 cents,
Rob

Very ironic going back and reading this whole thread 15-18 months later...

MF5150
01.02.08, 08:59 AM
Very ironic going back and reading this whole thread 15-18 months later...

Even more crazy is reading this 3 years later!:D