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    There is a fellow on the VH mailing list who is claiming to have 'inside info'. Ya, ya, I know. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    Anyhow, he's claiming that he's heard that DAVE is to blame for all of the trademark/copyright madness being perpetuated by Ed and Co.

    I don't know this guy and have no idea whether he posts here or at the Army at all.

    Oh ya, as a Dave fan, the subject header was difficult to type. I've got a bad feeling about this but I'm hoping it's just my ulcer acting up.

    Here's the email, for what it's worth.
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    Message: 25
    Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:55:38 EDT
    From: jeffatvirgin@aol.com
    Subject: SOME INSIGHT ON THIS BS!

    LizaC@rocketmail.com writes:

    > If that *is* the case, he is doing what he *has* to
    > do, not what he *wants* to do...if that's not the
    > case, then I think either (a) he's lost his mind or
    > (b) Peavey is behind it (or another entity who is
    > insisting before they make something for him with his
    > stripes that he enforce his rights).
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    > Liza

    Turns out that this is apparently what's happening. I just got off the phone
    with someone I consider a good source of legal in and here's what I was told.

    Apparently someone in the Dave camp started going bazerk trying to register
    everything from the name Van Halen, the initials VH to Ed's paint schemes. A
    pretty cheap shot by Dave if you ask me.

    This supposedly all started when The Insider stuff was filed. Someone
    obviously found out that WB didn't own rights and figured Ed didn't either so
    they tried to get to it before him.

    Had they been successful, Dave's band would have been sporting the striped
    logo in their tour this summer further confusing people. Especially if they
    were able to get their hands on something named Van Halen. Van Halen's
    business manager got wind of all of this and gave their attorney's carte
    blanche to shut down anyone and anything to do with infringement.

    They're covering Ed's ass. Imagine had Dave got the rights to any of this
    stuff. He probably really thought he was going to get away with something.

    If I were Sammy Hagar, I'd think twice about working with this fucker.

    Yet another boner in the life of David Lee Roth.

    [ April 10, 2002 at 10:02 PM: Message edited by: FlufferChick ]</p>

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    Would'nt it be great if all of this could be blamed on Ray Daniels! Every body would be much happier then!
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    Just on general principle, I blame Daniels for everything and anything bad that happens in the world.
    However, since '96, I think just about everyone in the Van Halen camp has a little blame coming their way, except maybe for Mikey. Van Halen now redefines the word disfunctional. I swear I don't know why I'm even hangin' on anymore, except for all the great memories.
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    Very interesting if the DLR part is anywhere true. Time will tell.
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    VH Links and the others site like it are no longer fan sites and message boards to discuss what VH is up to; it's a grieving /support group. A 3 year wake of sorts.

    Of course, I ain't leaving until well after the coffin is buried. Thank God for the baseball season. Talk about going from one dysfunctional situation to another!!
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    this dude with the virgin aol addy has mentioned things before. we'll see if he pans out or not. wouldn't that be a kick in the nuts if dave was behind all this shit and ed was just covering his own ass? gawd.

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    if it is true should we prepare ourselves for numerous apologise to ed threads?

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    Originally posted by FlufferChick:

    Message: 25
    Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 17:55:38 EDT
    From: jeffatvirgin@aol.com
    Subject: SOME INSIGHT ON THIS BS!
    I'm no expert here, but that email addy looks suspect to me. Don't you think that Virgin would have more then an aol email addy? Anybody could get an email like that.

    He may still have some truth to his line. Call me Doubting Thomas... but I'm not biting. I guess that's cuz it'd make me sick to think that Dave was involved in trying a stunt like that. I'm gonna need more proof then that.

    I trust YOU flufferchick! [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] I just don't trust our little virgin poster!
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    that jeffatvirgin thing totally rings a bell in my head, but i cant place who or what

    i do remember it was some BS though. grrr.
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    That jeffatvirgin dude seems to have it in for Dave.....and may have arrived at vhyahoo around the same time as Dave split with TK?

    If you look at vh.com doesn't it say that the Frankenstein artwork was copyright EVH 2000-2002? It all sounds like anti-Dave bullshit, can you even trademark/copyright something which provavbly was invented by someone else?
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    You know, I think you're right Jonathan. Need help from the lawyers in the house, but... you can copyright the idea of something that hasn't even been invented yet... so I'd imagine that if you find out something isn't already protected by something, you could submit the application under your name and see what happens. Seems to me there was some quirky movie about that very thing... [img]smile.gif[/img]

    Anyway... the thought came to me, though this isn't the right thread to post it in (and I know some of you are scratching yer heads thinking, NOW what?!?!?), BUT...

    I wonder if all this copyright/trademark activity surrounding Van Halen has anything to do with the upcoming Sammy and Dave tour? Do you think that this was a way for the brothers to prevent Sammy and Dave from calling their tour the "Sans Halen Tour?" [img]graemlins/sssh.gif[/img]

    I mean... why not??
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    Originally posted by Jonathan:
    That jeffatvirgin dude seems to have it in for Dave.....and may have arrived at vhyahoo around the same time as Dave split with TK?
    If you think about it... jeffatvirgin might BE TK! [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by LA:
    If you think about it... jeffatvirgin might BE TK! [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img]

    With all the lawyers apparently checking these sites I didn't want to make any accusations

    ...and going back. I think copyright implicitly belongs to the owner, registering it helps but you can't copyright something someone else invented/wrote etc. Not sure how trademark law works.
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    Frankly, the rumor sounds a bit too much to me. And not really Dave's style. He's been too quiet to launch a war with Ed.

    I could believe something a bit more mild, like trying to get something done to promote himself as Van Halen, but not the way that all sounded.

    I just don't think it's a coincidence that the custom shop JUST opened, and then the guitar guys are getting nailed.

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    Originally posted by Goo:
    that jeffatvirgin thing totally rings a bell in my head, but i cant place who or what

    i do remember it was some BS though. grrr.
    It rings a bell with me also and I remember it being a BS rumor.
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