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    Hi guys! I'm a free-lance journalist who has been a VH fan since 1978, and a Linker for a few years. Thinking there was a worthy story here, I started calling WB and others to check some of the rumors we hear at the Links. Over the last year or so I have been having conversations and building up a certain "rap" with some persons at WB, some legal offices associated with WB and VH, and some lower tier recording persons. I have learned several things, some of which may be absolutely true, others which may be more speculative. I literally have pages and pages of notes. You decide what you want to believe. I don't have a lot of posts, but I'm not some newby, either. If you see something below in quotes, that means I am quoting the source just as they said it to me. Take this with a grain of salt. I have built up a "rap" with these sources, but that doesn't mean I know them well enough to say when they are telling the truth or just talking shit.

    1. When Eddie was cleared medically of his cancer, he started right in drinking and smoking again. Val said adios. Apparently, this all went down WAY before Eddie made his announcement via the VH website, so I guess things haven't been too happy on Howdy Doody Mountain for a long while.
    2. Ed was "...just so fucking sick..." Even an eager and willing DLR had to admit that there was no way they were hitting the road in 2000/01. Remember that message from Dave? ...we wrote three astounding tunes...I haven't been in contact since summer... It seems Ed contacted DLR after that statement was made and let him know that his cancer had returned (remember how it was told to the fans: I had cancer; it is gone. But it looks like what really happened is he had cancer; it was cured; it came back WORSE).
    3. Ed and Dave got along GREAT during their recording/jamming sessions. It appears that Dave is the one who initiated the leave from WB. The logic here being if VH does all the work, they should keep as much of the money as they can. Maybe this is Dave's way of taking his revenge on the 33%ers? It seems that the VH exit from WB left a bad taste in some WB mouths. Which leads to the next point...
    4. Legal Problems: Publishing. Who owns what? Who gets credit for what? The threat of WB getting legally involved with a reunited VH looms up like a dark cloud. Ed starts trade-marking everything. According to these persons I have been talking with, NONE of this trade-marking/copy-righting stuff had anything to do with the Val/Ed split. No one has filed for divorce; they have actually semi-separated before. Why make THIS separation public? Easy: Val has a new man, and if everyone knows you are separated from your husband, this is OK and doesn't hurt your One-Day-At-A-Time-Touched-By-An-Angel image.
    5. The Reunion with Roth WILL happen ("...I'm thinking like 99.9%..."). This is the feeling of nearly all persons I have spoken with. There are HUGE sums of money (one estimate on album/tour/merchandising: $175 million..."think KISS reunion with WAY more talent...Eagles reunion with WAY more rabid fans..."). The only way it WON'T happen is if for some reason DLR torpedoes the deal. He was willing in mid 2000, and only Ed's health put a stop to that.
    6. Sammy? Don't completely rule that out. Mike DOES seem to have some say, contrary to other reports, but the vibe I get is that Al and Ed really have some issues with Sammy at this point. And DLR has been resisting having Mike play with him on the road now becaue he feels it will take away from the excitement of the FULL reunion.

    And that's about all I have. Not much when you consider how long I have been chasing the story! And there is NO STORY when no sources will go on record (at least there SHOULD'T be a story; the guys at the STAR or ENQUIRER may have a different view). And NO ONE who knows anything will go on the record about VH. What I have learned about VH through this experience is that if someone will go on record (VH's multiple/former publicists are TOTALLY clueless but will let you quote their "no comment/no info" line) they KNOW NOTHING. It's the second-engineers/roadie's/law clerks who have the dirt. And they apparently have much more which they are keeping to themselves. I tried to get info on the Tod Rundgren/VH thing, but this is a very, very taboo issue for some reason...

    I'm sorry there is nothing earth-shattering here, but I thought I should share what little info I have with my fellow Linkers.

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    Donor

    Many of the things that you have stated I have heard before and alot of it makes sense. All that I can say is that: I HOPE SO!!! [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bounce.gif[/img]
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    This sounds very plausible. I love Ed but if he started smoking and drinking again after all the shit he went through, well let me put it this way he's a dope. If your health, marriage and son aren't important enough reasons to quit your self destructive habits I don't know what would be.
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    thanks for the info man!

    let's get this tour over with and see what happens!

    i don't blame dave in a way for not letting mikey play with him. then if there wasn't a reunion it'd be like vh was fucking with us again ala 1996, and you know people would think that.

    let's just hope ed is healthy first, let the tour end, and get dave back

    as yogi once said, it ain't over til it's over

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    You know, this kinda makes sense.

    Dave tells Mikey "the timing isn't right". We can't make sense of that, but in the context of the Full VH reunion, it does make sense. Why take some of the steam away when you can wait till they are all on stage together.
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    Hmmmmm...could be. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    So why did DLR call EVH "Eddie Van Heineken" then ??

    Name change? [img]graemlins/scared.gif[/img]
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    God- i hope all that stuff is true.... i'll keep praying for the reunion...
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    YOu know Roth has known Eddie for what almost 30 years....So he's Dutch and so is Heiniken beer (at least I thought it was)...maybe it's a nick name he's had for him for years. Dave really hasn't bashed ed that much, the Touched by an angel joke, which Ed might even think is funny. Who knows. Sammy has bashed Ed at every opportunity.

    ...also Dave has always had a respect for Ed, he gave him space and I'm sure he knew the whole Val situation was goin on on top of everything else. DAve also knows he gets on Ed's nerves sometimes and hey...I'll catch up with you down the road a bit...Ed was consumed with his son's feelings and understanding of it all... and all the crap goin on in his house...maybe the album is done, maybe not. Ed says he has the material. Ed said "Dave has my number"...Val is in her new digs, Wolfie is going to live w/ her, so that is being settled, the cancer thing is settled and Roth is out there and his pipes are in great shape, after the tour maybe record with Ed and the boys.

    So Dave is recording with DLR band, so what..I'm sure he's not gonna put everything into one basket until it actually happens and there is a guareentee.

    ...but shit if it's gonna happen, get the show on the road boys!

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    Sorry BD but "Van Heineken" is a slam on Eddie because of his drinking prob and you know it!

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    Thanks for posting your notes. I can believe that most of that could be true. Unfortunately, nobody with the name 'Van Halen', 'Roth', 'Anthony' and 'Hagar' will say anything public. It sucks when you have to dig up information from the folks on the bottom-end of the totum poll. Like you said tphitmen, you just don't know if they are speaking the truth or blowing smoke.
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    Anyone who is a Dave fan will beleive this.

    If this dude would have mentioned that Sammy was the one that would return 99.9%, all the Dave fans would have been slamming this guy like crazy.

    Go Figure.....
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    Originally posted by Blatent Disreguard:
    YOu know Roth has known Eddie for what almost 30 years....So he's Dutch and so is Heiniken beer (at least I thought it was)...maybe it's a nick name he's had for him for years. Dave really hasn't bashed ed that much, the Touched by an angel joke, which Ed might even think is funny. Who knows. Sammy has bashed Ed at every opportunity.

    ...also Dave has always had a respect for Ed, he gave him space and I'm sure he knew the whole Val situation was goin on on top of everything else. DAve also knows he gets on Ed's nerves sometimes and hey...I'll catch up with you down the road a bit...Ed was consumed with his son's feelings and understanding of it all... and all the crap goin on in his house...maybe the album is done, maybe not. Ed says he has the material. Ed said "Dave has my number"...Val is in her new digs, Wolfie is going to live w/ her, so that is being settled, the cancer thing is settled and Roth is out there and his pipes are in great shape, after the tour maybe record with Ed and the boys.

    So Dave is recording with DLR band, so what..I'm sure he's not gonna put everything into one basket until it actually happens and there is a guareentee.

    ...but shit if it's gonna happen, get the show on the road boys!

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    Originally posted by Blotcher:
    Anyone who is a Dave fan will beleive this.

    If this dude would have mentioned that Sammy was the one that would return 99.9%, all the Dave fans would have been slamming this guy like crazy.

    Go Figure.....
    Oh, shut up.
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    I consider myself a "Roth Model Citizen" and would love to see him back in VH [Though, I would welcome back Sammy over any other choices that have been rumored]. That said, I don't think DLR making of fun of EVH's drinking and divorce is going to recruit any love from EVH. I think Dave has resigned himself to the idea that it's not going to happen, so might as well sling some mud. It's one of the few things he has in common with Sammy. So it may be a great deal of fun to bash EVH with Sammy.

    I will admit that it seems strange that DLR won't have MA play with him on tour. But by the same token, I don't remember ever hearing that MA liked DLR. So why would MA want to play with a guy that he probably dreamed about leaving VH? Just so he can play bass again on some old VH tunes? I doubt it.
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