Follow us on...
Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Facebook Watch us on YouTube
Register
Save
Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    Romeo Delight
    Join Date
    01.30.03
    Age
    45
    Location
    concord, nh
    Posts
    81
    Favorite VH Album

    5150
    Favorite VH Song

    dreams
    Last Online

    09.26.16 @ 06:23 AM
    Likes
    3
    Liked 22 Times in 13 Posts

    This is actually one of my favorite VH discs. Ted Templeman earned his pay on this one, IMO, by suggesting that Eddie return to riff-oriented writing. Twelve years later, I'm still delighted by the riffs driving "Man On A Mission" and "In N Out." All that said, the sound of this album has always bothered me somewhat. Does anyone else think that Eddie's guitars on this album sometimes sound muffled, as if he's playing in a closet? If only they had achieved the same sound on this record as they did on Balance...

  2. #2
    Unchained
    Join Date
    07.17.02
    Age
    36
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    450
    Favorite VH Album

    Best Of (cop out answer)
    Favorite VH Song

    A Year To The Day
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    I never noticed but I'll listen again. I've always liked the production on that album and especially Balance and Fair Warning.
    "Right Now.....Mike is thinking about a solo project."<br /><br />"Victory has a thousand fathers. Defeat is an orphan."

  3. #3
    On Fire
    Join Date
    08.11.02
    Age
    50
    Location
    Edmonton, AB Canada
    Posts
    399
    Favorite VH Album

    Van Halen 1
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    I love the production on F.U.C.K. because Andy Johns finally got Mikey's bass rumble into the mix. I thought he really captured their live sound, whereas Landee (upon Templeman's insistence apparently) always buried the bottom end to give Eddie more room.

    That was the first album where Eddie switched to the Music man. I wonder if leaving Frankie behind could explain Ed's tone not being what it normally was. Whatever, he certainly figured it out in time for Humans Being and Me Wise Magic. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] Still miss his old tone with the delay in the opposite speaker though. Like that better than the chorusy thing he's got on the go now.
    "Some men are born to greatness, some women have greatness thrust up in them."<br /> <br />Diamond Dave

  4. #4
    On Fire
    Join Date
    12.20.02
    Age
    41
    Location
    Galveston Island (2 miles south of TEXAS)
    Posts
    323
    Favorite VH Album

    fair warning
    Favorite VH Song

    sinners swing
    Last Online

    04.21.16 @ 04:41 PM
    Likes
    1
    Liked 15 Times in 4 Posts

    Eddie's tone got really thin about 5150 and especially since his new amps and guitars came out. Never liked the post 84 tone that much. I guess that's what happens when you trade a Marshall for a Peavey
    "The problem with self-improvement is knowing when to quit." -David Lee Roth

  5. #5
    Little Dreamer
    Join Date
    02.20.03
    Age
    51
    Location
    Cherryvale, KS
    Posts
    27
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning, 5150
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained, Dreams
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    I'll take my Peavey 5150 over my Marshall any day, thank you very much!
    Everyday I break my previous record for consecutive days staying alive.

  6. #6
    Little Dreamer
    Join Date
    01.11.02
    Location
    columbia, md
    Posts
    7
    Favorite VH Album

    fair warning, 5150
    Favorite VH Song

    unchained
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 1 Time in 1 Post

    I have always liked 5150 because I thought the album had a consistency to it, really tight, lots of hooks a driving beats. But the sound was really really thin. FUCK had good sound, but some of the songs with 3 and 4 competing lead guitar lines were hard to follow. Balance had a big, fat, heavy sound that I don't think they did anything with on the actual songs. Thank good ness for Humans Being!

  7. #7
    Little Dreamer
    Join Date
    10.02.02
    Age
    45
    Location
    Ashburn, VA
    Posts
    36
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Balance is by far their best produced album, but the songs in my opinion don't do it justice. Seventh Seal is awesome, my favorite post Dave song, but the rest of the songwriting is just plain weak. You can tell that Sammy is starting not to give a shit. Whenever a professional starts writing Wam Bam Amsterdam or whatever the hell he wrote you know he is mailing it in. I know the musicians on this board love Balance, but I want to hear VH rock, y'know make those songs that make you pump your fist and bang your head. They started to lose that in my opinion.

    Everyone so far is correct that FUCK had some of Eddie's best riffs, but Sam's crappy-lyrics-o-meter is starting to kick in. Spanked, In n' Out, ugh!

  8. #8
    Hot For Teacher
    Join Date
    11.13.02
    Age
    54
    Location
    Western Australia
    Posts
    306
    Favorite VH Album

    1984, 5150
    Favorite VH Song

    Jamie\'s cryin\', Dreams, Right now
    Last Online

    02.27.07 @ 03:58 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    I like F.U.C.K but I've never ever liked the production. It's too 'muddy' for me, and Ed's guitar sounds a lot different than it had previously IMO.(Not in a good way) The bass was mixed further out a little, but I didn't like the bass sound.
    All in all, I would love to hear this album remastered and cleaned up a little.

    To me it sounds like it needs some of the high bottom end taken down a little. I wanna hear the kick drum in my gut, but not all the lower mid range mud......if that makes sense.

    The whole thing sounds like the listener is standing just a little far too far away........a shame.

  9. #9
    Atomic Punk Wolfman's Avatar
    Join Date
    05.31.00
    Location
    Lexington, KY
    Posts
    8,119
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Hear About It Later, Atomic Pu
    Last Online

    05.27.16 @ 08:26 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Originally posted by Crazy from the Hemp:
    I love the production on F.U.C.K. because Andy Johns finally got Mikey's bass rumble into the mix.
    Not only that, but he got the best mix of Al's drum kit, IMO.

  10. #10
    Sinner's Swing! Mario VH's Avatar
    Join Date
    10.18.99
    Location
    Ottawa, Canada
    Posts
    3,776
    Favorite VH Album

    1984
    Favorite VH Song

    Panama
    Last Online

    03.28.15 @ 05:30 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts

    I think the production and overall sound on FUCK is pretty good especially coming off the sub par sound of OU812. Balance was the best sounding Van Hagar record, Bruce did a masterful job producing that album.
    "It's now officially 5150 time!!!"

  11. #11
    Romeo Delight
    Join Date
    02.04.03
    Age
    40
    Location
    Slovenia, Europe
    Posts
    46
    Favorite VH Album

    F.U.C.K
    Favorite VH Song

    Jump
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Yea FUCK is great record. One of my favorites, if not the fvorite! The guitar sound is great!

  12. #12
    Top Of The World
    Join Date
    07.22.00
    Location
    WI. USA
    Posts
    196
    Favorite VH Album

    5150
    Favorite VH Song

    The Dream Is Over
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Awesome production,but it gets annoying having to screw with mixer settings just for that album or a song off of it. I got my shit set up so even OU812 sounds good,so you can imagine how off it is when Knowledge is played,hehe.
    Guitar player,extrordinaire(or at least I like to think)<br /><br />"....man,this is Van Halen,and i'm the singer." Sammy-1987<br /><br /><a href="http://www.guitartabs.cc/" target="_blank">www.guitartabs.cc/</a>

  13. #13
    Little Dreamer
    Join Date
    05.06.02
    Age
    47
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    36
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Last Online

    12.31.69 @ 04:00 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    I think F.U.C.K is by far the best VH album of the Hagar era. I loved the production, and think from front to back it is the most rocking album they did with Sammy. Balance had a lot of great stuff but also a decent amount of crap in my opinion. On top of that, the Balance tour sucked. They were going through the motions and you could tell the end was near.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Poll: For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
    By therealdeal in forum VH Songs/Albums/Videos
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 10.28.02, 08:41 PM
  2. Of management, marketing and production!
    By atomicpunk5150 in forum Main VH Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10.12.02, 08:00 PM
  3. For Unlawful Carnel Knowledge
    By Reckless Fable in forum VH Songs/Albums/Videos
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 07.24.02, 10:36 AM
  4. This For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge will make you laugh!!!!!!!
    By nobycane in forum Main VH Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02.27.02, 03:47 PM
  5. Wolfgang Production
    By Space Tape in forum Guitar Room
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12.03.01, 10:05 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •