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    This is from an interview with Tom Morello from AudioSlave (formally Rage Against The Machines). The story compares RATM to Van Halen and seems to say a few nice things:

    Rock and roll is a notoriously plagiaristic art form. In spite of being radically different bands, Rage Against the Machine and Van Halen have a few things in common that most people tend to miss. They were both ground-breaking hard rock bands out of the LA club scene. They were both renowned for the guitar heroics of their axemen. The instrumental sections carried on with a new lead singer following the departures of their original frontmen. Most conspicuously, they both went on to influence a lot of bad music. Rage Against the Machine laid the groundwork for the cross hybridization of metal, rap, punk, industrial, and electronic music within the same band. A few years ago, the mainstream rock scene was bombarded with a series of rap-rock fusion acts who were capitalizing on the sonic template Rage Against the Machine pioneered a decade ago. Their formula has been imitated and bastardized by bands like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and Korn. Rap metal had its time in the spotlight, and has quietly and passively fallen by the wayside in the eyes of fans and critics...
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    Glad he gave props to VH but lets get real-Rage pioneering a new sound as VH did-COME ON!!! While I always mention Randy Rhoads as an innovator and just as respnsible for the 80's guitar sound as Ed, no band even came close back then to forging the "new" sound in music taht most of us enjoyed in the 80's.

    I have no idea when Rage really came onto the scene as to influence other people/bands but I can name a bunch of rap/metal bands in the earlier 90's.

    And the true innovators of Rap and Roll are (drum roll please) the BEASTIE BOYS [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] Not quite Metal/Rap but they did lay the template out for it.

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    Originally posted by Nerf Herder:
    This is from an interview with Tom Morello from AudioSlave (formally Rage Against The Machines). The story compares RATM to Van Halen and seems to say a few nice things:

    </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Rock and roll is a notoriously plagiaristic art form. In spite of being radically different bands, Rage Against the Machine and Van Halen have a few things in common that most people tend to miss. They were both ground-breaking hard rock bands out of the LA club scene. They were both renowned for the guitar heroics of their axemen. The instrumental sections carried on with a new lead singer following the departures of their original frontmen. Most conspicuously, they both went on to influence a lot of bad music. Rage Against the Machine laid the groundwork for the cross hybridization of metal, rap, punk, industrial, and electronic music within the same band. A few years ago, the mainstream rock scene was bombarded with a series of rap-rock fusion acts who were capitalizing on the sonic template Rage Against the Machine pioneered a decade ago. Their formula has been imitated and bastardized by bands like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and Korn. Rap metal had its time in the spotlight, and has quietly and passively fallen by the wayside in the eyes of fans and critics...
    Read the whole thing here: http://www.addictedtosound.com/inttommorello.htm</font>[/QUOTE]AND both VH's and RATM's original frontmen quit because of tensions in the band, and virtually disappeared from the earth. Yo, I even heard a rumor that Zack De la Rocha is starting a new band and calling it The Z-DLR Band! How weird is that?!? [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img]
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    Rage was very influential. Debuting in 1992, those dudes exploded onto the scene.
    Rap rock, rap-metal or whatever ya wanna call it does go back a while. Run DMC was rapping over eletric guitar before they hooked up with Aerosmith. The Beastie Boys where also doin' it since like 1984-1985, rhyming over AC/DC and Sabbath samples. Remember the tune Rapture from Blondie like in 1981? She did a rap in the middle of that tune. Plus killer bands like the Chili Peppers, Faith No More, Suicidal Tendencies and Anthrax hooking up with Public Enemy. Those where all rockin' bands who added bits of hip hop & rap to their music since the 80's.
    But Rage really hit it on the head. It was a slammin' band with a rapper out front. Not to mention they never needed a dj cuz Morello, a shred & metal afficionado, can do turntable scratching and wild sounds on his guitar no problemo. Shit, Morello even listened to Allan Holdsworht's METAL FATIGUE growing up, so ya know he aint no fraud.
    Rage was awesome. It was like big Sabbath and Zep riffs with the attitude of Gang of Four or The Clash with the wild guitar sounds of EVH with the fuck you of Public Enemy and the kitchen sink!
    They grooved bit time.

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    You guys remember the "Judgment Night" soundtrack from, like, '92-'93? Every track was a metal band and rap artist paired up together. The Public Enemy/Anthrax song was on there, Biohazard and Onyx, Living Colour and Run-DMC, Pearl Jam and Cypress Hill, Slayer and Ice-T, Mudhoney and Sir Mix-A-Lot, and a few others. Now THAT was some cool shit. Wonder what that would sound like these days, with, like, Van Halen with Ice Cube, Alice In Chains w/Eminem, GNR w/Nelly, Metallica w/Busta Rhymes. Whatever.
    As my ol' grandpappy used to say, "Don't ever tell anybody I told you this, ya little fucker."

 

 

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