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    Hi all,
    Ok, it's there - let me know what you think!

    Sorry for the delay in getting it online today.
    Breaking news that Billy Sheehan is out of Mr Big took about an hour to confirm, so I am running behind.

    Interesting development, the Billy thing, but who knows...

    Anyway, check it out now.

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    Thanks, Andrew! That gives us something to chew on for a while. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

    Looks like at least something will be happening eventually.

    The thing that most surprised me was the rumor of Eddie offering 35%--to either Sam or Dave, from the sounds of it.

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    Hiya,
    I agree with you on the 50% / 35% thing.
    That's the part I was most tempted to leave out of the report, but I was told this with other bits, so I inclunded it anyway.

    If we can get a denial of it, then good - it's sorted that way anyway, but still, interesting figures!!

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    If Dave even had the audacity to ASK for 50%, I would have thought he was simply haggling, but hoping for something around 35%. Refusing 35% in a situation where 25% should suffice seems a little suspect. So, if it's true, I think we can all kiss Dave goodbye until the H.O.F. If it's not true, well, we're back to square one.

    The Andy Johns/Hagar connection seems bizarre, as from what I have gathered, Sam didn't like working with him on F.U.C.K. and that's where Ted came into the picture. So, to me, having those 2 names tied together in any way doesn't make much sense. But, ya never know where these things come from anyway.

    The MOST interesting part is that Eddie would have 'blamed' Mike Post for much of the failure of VH3. Not that I disagree with the idea of it, it's that Eddie would acknowledge such a thing. *Revelation: in the LONG run, Eddie trying his best to 'make up for' the faults of VH3 could very well be the best thing we might ever get from him. It would actually mean that VH3 serves a greater purpose-as the impetus for VH to overachieve for a change.*

    Too bad there was nothing terribly incriminating in all that stuff; it could have really lit this place up!

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    What's on Elektra's plate for artists/releases next year? If they're working with other rock acts (perhaps their marketing is planning on a resurgence of rock), I'd give a bit more credibility to the Dave-solo deal part of the report. Anybody know?

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    I might be an idiot but where the hell is the report at???? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cry.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]
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    The two things that really caught my eye were;

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>A new item sent to me suggests that the Sammy Hagar era Van Halen records have now been re-mastered. One rumour suggested these could have been released in November. But a new opinion is that these remasters will not be released until after the next studio album is released.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    And;

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>The upcoming Kiss box set will include a version of Christine Sixteen that featured Eddie Van Halen on guitar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rod Dangle:
    I might be an idiot but where the hell is the report at???? [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img] [img]smilies/cry.gif[/img] [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
    http://www.melodicrock.com/

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:

    http://www.melodicrock.com/
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    That's where I was looking, I can't seem to click on the rumor link. Am I blind??? Has the More Beautiful Girls thread ruined my sight???

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    Go to that site and click "refresh", that's what I had to do.

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    I just don't buy the 35% thing. Why would Dave turn that down if he were actually offered that much of a cut?

    I also don't think it's such a given that Billy Sheehan and Steve Vai are going to wait around for Dave if the VH thing keeps dragging out. They've got careers of their own too.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
    Go to that site and click "refresh", that's what I had to do.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    FUCK!!!!

    It's not working for me.

    I suck!
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
    I just don't buy the 35% thing. Why would Dave turn that down if he were actually offered that much of a cut?


    bizarre, to say the least

    I also don't think it's such a given that Billy Sheehan and Steve Vai are going to wait around for Dave if the VH thing keeps dragging out. They've got careers of their own too.
    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


    Well, Vai has just released a live cd from G3 (as has Satriani), and Billy is suddenly out of Mr. Big, after a 'strong cd'? THAT would indicate that he has something else to do, but then again, I had heard he was doing a solo project as well, but I guess it COULD be a sign of a reunited EEAS band.

    And Glenn, nowhere in the report were YOU named VH singer, so you can now relax. (and so can we, I imagine [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])
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    For anyone having trouble, or lacking the desire, to load the melodicrock page, here's all the info (if it copies correctly)


    ...please note that it is not my preferred practice to print unconfirmed reports - I do prefer to have some factual support, but as representatives for Van Halen, David Lee Roth, Gary Cherone, Sammy Hagar and Warner Bros. would not return any of my enquiries, I am left with only the rumours!

    There is more news fresh in today though. I have heard that there are fresh attempts afoot to get David Lee Roth and Van Halen back to the negotiating table again.
    BUT, if these current talks do not work out, the David Lee Roth solo Eat Em And Smile line up will almost certainly be back on the road and in the studio in 2002.

    The consistent thread in the 'information' sent to me is that the band seemingly has no current timetable for any new release or tour. And despite several attempts over the months, they have not been able to yet secure a return to the band of either David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar. These are apparently the obvious two options that have been looked at.

    Ok, so here is what I have compiled from the rumours, hearsay, gossip and miscellaneous reports sent my way.
    Take from it what you will and feel free to further investigate this and try and pick apart the information. Send me any updates and we might just one day get to the bottom of what is going on in camp Van Halen.

    Van Halen - The Band In General

    * Van Halen are NOT ready to call it quits.

    * Eddie Van Halen would prefer to move on as a band and create something new, rather than go out on the road as a 'nostalgia' act.
    Eddie though, is apparently itching to get back on the road and is looking forward to the point where this happens.

    * SRO / Ray Danniels Management was fired the day Gary Cherone quit the band in October 1999. But a complete severing of ties between the band and management has only just been achieved. There have been ongoing legal issues regarding contractual agreements between SRO, Van Halen and Warner Bros. and those issues were only just finalized in June this year.

    * Due to the above legal problems, Van Halen still do not currently have management set in place and have not had the right to hire new management until the above issues were settled.

    * The band is now ready to choose new management. One source however said that management agencies are at the moment reluctant to look at the band until a line up (vocalist) is finalized.

    * Lawyers for both VH and DLR have apparently once again been in contact with each other find out where each other stand. If there were no reply from one side or the other, it would appear the re-union would be doomed. $$$ and % share seems to be the major sticking points.

    * VH1 have always had major interest in producing a Behind The Music special on Van Halen. To this date, this has been consistently refused, but recent rumours suggest the project is back on the agenda. A call to the VH1 Network by a good contact of mine received this quote - "They have not reached an agreement with the band to do one as yet..."

    * My February 2000 Report: For the record, I am still no closer to uncovering the real identity of who called me. I still believe it was a set up (love conspiracy theories!), although have no idea why the Coverdale story was a part of that set up.
    This report was the subject of a lot of contention and it's contents were later rejected in a phone call Scotti Ross made to me after I threatened to use the 'sources' name unless they called me.
    Incidentally, Scotti got my phone number after I left it with SRO asking them to pass my message along. They obviously did so. This was in March 2000.
    In July this year - only 2 weeks ago - and 18 months after the original set of calls came in, I was finally able to speak one on one with the alleged person who called me. They were not happy to hear from me, but his voice did not match that of the one who called and they denied all knowledge of the call and the information divulged.
    Take the David Coverdale rumour out of the equation and the rest of the information remains a pretty good read!!

    Eddie Van Halen

    * Was asked to do a commercial for Cancer research. He declined based on privacy and personal issues.

    * Looks a possibility to appear at the annual City Of Hope event in Studio City, Los Angeles.

    * Eddie Van Halen lays a lot of the blame for the failure of VH3 on producer Mike Post. He also admitted songwriting was a big problem and is determined to see the band redeem themselves on both points.

    * Eddie's cancer scare was serious, but apparently never the main issue in ongoing delays in new material being recorded. The lack of a singer is!

    Alex Van Halen

    * Is also reported to have also been in below average health over the past months.

    * Could be doing a new promo for Paiste Cymbals.

    Michael Anthony

    * A couple of reports suggest that he is working on an all new bass sound for the next record, whatever form that record should take and whenever it happens.

    Sammy Hagar

    * Sammy has apparently been approached several times to hang out with the band and has so far declined. It must be noted though - there have been no formal offers. Sammy, however, at this stage, has repeated several times that he is quite happy as a solo artist and will continue doing that. He is also still looking for an apology from Eddie and Alex Van Halen.

    * A new item sent to me suggests that the Sammy Hagar era Van Halen records have now been re-mastered. One rumour suggested these could have been released in November. But a new opinion is that these remasters will not be released until after the next studio album is released. This could be due to the fact the release of the Dave era albums caused no end of speculation about his imminent full time return to the band. The band do not want to repeat this by issuing the Sammy era albums right now.

    * Sammy continues to call the studio and has done over the past few years, keeping in touch with Michael Anthony and other contacts in the VH camp.

    * Sammy basically confirmed these details himself in a recent interview on US radio station KSHE95.

    David Lee Roth

    * What ever Dave does next - Dave wins. He can't lose! Well, that's what I think anyway...
    His public profile is once again huge and interest in him as an artist is at a 10 year high. The expectation of his fans is that he will join Van Halen, but if he doesn't - for whatever reason - there are going to be several projects and many offers waiting for him to consider.

    * Dave has been busy setting up a Plan B - the VH back-up plan to be considered if the re-union doesn't come together. He has planned to get his classic Eat 'Em And Smile band line up back together and that looks positive.
    Billy Sheehan, Steve Vai and Gregg Bissonette are all ready to do so. This could happen in 2002. 50/50 I am told from another 'source'.
    Billy Sheehan's schedule looks to be clearing up - see breaking news story below!

    * Billy Sheehan, Gregg Bissonnette and Steve Vai have all talked to Dave on the EEAS subject.

    * It is rumoured from one source that Electra Records have offered David Lee Roth a solo album deal with substantial promotional backing, if the album includes the above line up. Elektra is closely monitoring the feedback and success of Dave's current solo tour. If all is a success, a multi-album deal could go through. Remember, rumour only folks!

    * Another rumour is that David was given the lyric rights to the three tunes recorded by Van Halen in their brief re-union last year. In line with the above rumour, Electra apparently have expressed interest in including these three songs as part of the Dave solo deal, naturally to be re-recorded by the band featured on the solo album. One source I asked dismissed this immediately.

    * Roth initially gathered his band back together because he was tired of waiting and hopes to push his cause with good reviews from the gigs.

    * But apparently, Van Halen were not pleased to see Dave out on his own solo tour.

    * Dave has continued to keep his options open and is still working with other people in case the VH reunion flops.

    * A hot rumour says Dave was paid a non-refundable retainer for the Van Halen sessions mid last year.

    * Dave has maintained his silence in the whole affair in hope of the re-union still going ahead. Any negative comments from him would kill the project instantly.

    * One rumour sent to me suggested that Dave wanted a 50% stake in the re-union after the 1996 bungling, with Eddie apparently offering 35%!
    But, this issue went unsettled. I would love to confirm or deny this one, but it's pure hearsay.
    These figures could also relate to any offer the band have made Sammy, as another source suggested to me, but these are the figures being gossiped about by some in the music industry.

    Gary Cherone

    * The former lead singer is now completely out of any legal dealings or wrangles with band or former management. Apparently this was only settled in June of this year.

    * Gary was asked to forgo his rights to songs in progress that would have been the next Van Halen record. That includes apparently 7 or 8 songs. Apparently this was rejected, with one song titled Left For Dead, under consideration for Gary's new project.

    * There was consideration given to Tribe Of Judah supporting Sammy Hagar on tour, but this has since been scuttled.

    * Gary Cherone's new band, Tribe Of Judah (also featuring Mike Mangini & Pat Badger, both ex-Extreme members) has four mp3's free for the downloading at the following link: TOJOnline.com

    * Gary is now being managed by ex-Extreme drummer Paul Geary.

    Warner Brothers

    * I was told the band has NOT been dropped from the label, but still DOES NOT have an official recording contract with the label.
    However, Warner Bros. will get first option on the band's next album.

    * There have been no deadlines from Warner for a new album, as the label have no say in the matter at all, due to the fact there is no current recording contract.
    However, the next album is likely to be a big deal, so they retain very interested in developments.

    * Apparently, the label did indicate that they wanted either Sammy Hagar or David Lee Roth back in the band for the next studio album. It appears rumours that Warner requested the next album to feature Sammy or David, or the band will be free to shop for a new deal...were true.

    Producers

    * Andy Johns is the very latest producer rumoured to be involved with the band.
    His name is linked with rumours that Sammy Hagar is working with the band with Andy is overseeing this. Thus far totally unconfirmed, but I will be interviewing Andy next week on this topic and his entire production career.

    * Ted Templeman is not now, nor has never been involved in the new VH project. I am sorry to be one of many that repeated this rumour last year.
    He is no longer a Warner Bros employee and hasn't been for some years now. He has been totally uncontactable.

    * Mike Clink was another name briefly mentioned several months ago...to no confirmation.

    * But Glen Ballard apparently would like to be involved!

    * Bob Rock is another name connected with helping out the band at some stage/s and again, has gone completely unconfirmed.

    Other Miscellaneous Characters

    * Apparently Pantera are interested in covering Van Halen's Everybody Wants Some as a possible album track or B-Side for their next album. Time will tell on that one...

    * The upcoming Kiss box set will include a version of Christine Sixteen that featured Eddie Van Halen on guitar.
    The box set it due later this year or early in 2002, so details should be available for this soon.

    * The much loved Van Halen cover band Atomic Punks want to record a CD.
    The interesting and exciting part of this news is that all the songs considered for this album are old unreleased David Lee Roth era Van Halen songs.
    The band have recently recorded a demo to shop to perspective record labels.
    But The Punks need Van Halen's official approval for the use of these songs, but that hasn't come.
    My source for this information has Eddie Van Halen on record as saying "We're not dead yet, so, why would we want this record out on the streets?"
    The project remains in limbo...

    * Michael Austin, son of Mo Austin - someone intrinsically involved with the band in the past - was rumoured to be a part of the new re-union. I was able to contact Michael, now working for Dreamworks, who kindly e-mailed me a reply that said he has nothing to do with the band or their current plans.

    That's it on the rumours for now. If you choose to repeat these above points - please remember that they are rumours only at this stage! I am just repeating what rumours I have been sent over the last few months...

    EXCLUSIVE BREAKING NEWS!!!:
    Billy Sheehan is out of Mr. Big. Yes - amazing, but true. The mighty bass player and one of the founding members of the band will no longer be a part of the line up. When this will be effective from and why I am not yet sure of, but I will be following this up.
    More news on this as soon as possibly available.
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AbeVanHalen:
    Billy is suddenly out of Mr. Big, after a 'strong cd'? THAT would indicate that he has something else to do, but then again, I had heard he was doing a solo project as well, but I guess it COULD be a sign of a reunited EEAS band.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, I think Billy has a solo album coming out on Vai's record label.

    Obviously they could be available, I'm just saying I don't see them waiting around to be Dave's backup plan. They're professionals, no way are they going to want to be made to seem like a fall back option.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>And Glenn, nowhere in the report were YOU named VH singer, so you can now relax. (and so can we, I imagine [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>A personal phone call wouldn't have hurt. [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img]

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