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    Just wondered about the packaging, is there anything extra? Pictures, lyrics or anything? Also, is there alot of difference in the sound quality?

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    No lyrics, but there is extra artwork. It's the stuff that was in the original albums; the chain picture of DLR in WACF, the four individual photos in VH 1 and the collage of pictures in Diver Down.

    The sound has been debated. It's not nearly as changed as I would have liked, though I didn't have a really clear idea of exactly what went into remastering something, so perhaps I was expecting things that would only have come through remixing. All I can give is my opinion, which is that they are in this order, from most improved to least.

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    It's all opinions, some people have stated that they think 1984 sounds way better; to me, it isn't changed that much.

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    They all sound better to my ears. I agree with Glenn that DD and VH2 are the most improved. FW was a slight disappointment - Unchained didn't explode out of the speakers like I expected, maybe because I listened to BOV1 version a lot.

    I know many people didn't want to see the original albums changed with extra music etc. But there's so much space that making them multimedia with the music videos would have been a nice touch IMO.

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    quote:
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    They all sound better to my ears. I agree with Glenn that DD and VH2 are the most improved. FW was a slight disappointment - Unchained didn't explode out of the speakers like I expected, maybe because I listened to BOV1 version a lot.

    I know many people didn't want to see the original albums changed with extra music etc. But there's so much space that making them multimedia with the music videos would have been a nice touch IMO.



    Very much in agreeance, hell half the cd's empty on some of those remasters

    My own advise would be to purchase say DD, or VH (the biggest improvements sound wise) to get a feel for whats happened, before shelling out for the rest. They're a great improvement, but not nessesarily an essential purchase.



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    I only have 84' and FW, ...


    Huge difference in the "Bottom" ya know! Bass and drums.

    FW was not a dissapointment for me, ...

    84' is just narly! Improved 110% on that "Bottom" sound.

    You know the remasters now hurt my ears and make them buzz when I'm blaring the shit in my truck.

    Where as before I couldn't turn it up loud enough.

    Just buy one then you'll know!



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    I bought Fair Warning yesterday, and sound
    wise it wasn't improved THAT much. However,
    I thought the packaging was really poor.
    The side label looks cheap. I have bootleg
    cds with nicer labels. I'm not noticing
    enough improvement on the Remastered cds
    to warrent going out and re-buying cds you
    already have. Exception would be VH2 and
    WACF. I think it's a ploy for Warners to get
    as much out of Van Halen while they can.

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    One thing no one ever mentions about the packaging is that they cleaned up all the images. You can actually make out some details of each member of the band on the front of VH1 now.

    As far as packaging goes, I was a bit disappointed with how the actual disc looks. They're all a standard yellow-brown with the words "Warner Remasters" on them. They could have AT LEAST put the album cover on the disc instead.

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    I bought them all when they came out. They all sound better to me. The packaging looks better to me too.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stuff No More:

    As far as packaging goes, I was a bit disappointed with how the actual disc looks. They're all a standard yellow-brown with the words "Warner Remasters" on them. They could have AT LEAST put the album cover on the disc instead.

    <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I totally agree. I remember the day they came out that I commented that they look like they've been puked on. Terrible color.

    Good call too on the cover clean up. The colors on the 1984 cover are much more subtle.



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    all of the original artwork has been restored to the proper color tones. they all look fantastic.
    as for the sound, the improvement is drastically better. you should put them on back to back with the originals. there is quite a difference.

    the remasters are absolutely worth the investment if you want to hear better sounding van halen. are they perfect? nothing's perfect. audio is an ever-evolving beast.

    i can tell you this: when i compared the waveforms, the originals don't stand up to the remasters on any level, and neither do the gold discs or the BOV.1 tracks (but to a lesser extent).

    brett posted some of the waveform pics i sent when this topic came up a while back. you guys should do a search and check 'em out.

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    If I may put my input on mastering I'd like to just give my 2cents worth, or a dollar, whatever. Two years ago myself and former band recorded a few songs at a recording studio in Ottawa Canada (Alanis Morrisette recorded there when she was a disco queen, needless info but hey!). We couldn't really afford to have it mastered as it took us 12 hrs to do two songs. The CD volume is very low in comparrison to 'professional' cd. If I may brag, our local radio station played it, was rather odd hearing yourself on radio. Anyway, as far as mastering goes my overall take on it is the volume level from song to song on the cd. I could be wrong, but my impression is any real heavy duty bottem or high end changes is starting to get into 'remixing', but I could be wrong. So, I think that as far as remastering goes, they probably just boosted up the volume and cleaned up background noise. I don't own any of the remasters, can anyone mention if the volume levels are different on the remasters. As everyone knows I am sure from making the 'ultimate personal vh cd' one song is a lower volume from another song on a different cd. Think some one addressed how to deal with this somewhere.

    Napster...if I may. (sorry) I am only mentioning this because I had a 'discussion' with a current band member (my band) and co-worker regarding the napster situation. My opinion is it is no different than lending or borrowing a cd. He played for a very successful canadian rock band in the 80's and kinda has an 'inside' view on it. This is what he told me. (In Canada) an average cost for a 'bare bones' CD is $100,000, which your record company lends you. Video (bare bones) $50,000...probably looking at 3.
    The band receives $1.00 per CD sold. So, to break even (in Canada) the band must go Platinum (200,000 copies) in order to pay back the loan from the record company, oh, and they must eat too In the states, triple all those figures.

    Anyway, changed my tune about Napster a bit, guess I feel guilty cause I downloaded a bunch of this bands songs, but I gave him a quarter per song d/l *lol*.

    To end, he met Eddie Van Halen once and said he was an extremely nice guy, his way of approach was that Ted Templeton was producing the album they were recording at the time.

    Sorry to ramble, but thought I'd make a 'non idiot' post for a change

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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Goo:

    LOL.. cool

    IN ref to the question, yeh, the volume is signifcantly improved, and there is a pretty easily discernable difference in 'bottom end' sound. They also sound a touch 'crisper', but thats a little harder to pick

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    LOL also GOO!, ... That's exactly what I said in an earlier post about the "Bottom End" being improved 110%.

    I'm glad to see somebody else has a set of hears on them. I really could care less aboout the packaging really,

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    Its the first thing i noticed actually, just tune the ear to mikeys bass and you'll pick it pretty easy

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    One thing I noticed right away was you can CLEANLY make out everyone's voice in Pretty Woman, not just Dave's.

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    quote:
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    LOL.. cool

    IN ref to the question, yeh, the volume is signifcantly improved, and there is a pretty easily discernable difference in 'bottom end' sound. They also sound a touch 'crisper', but thats a little harder to pick



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