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    I was having a conversation with some guys at work regarding our favorite VH albums. My fave was Fair Warning, however I am really fond of the color and tone of 1984. I find it a very moody album similar to FW. Besides the hits (Jump, Panama) I see the rest of the album as rather dark, angry and twisted. The gentlemen that I was conversing with thought I was nuts and said that 1984 is a straight up POP album. I truly feel that this is one of their most artistic collctions in terms of message, vibe, color and tension. Does anybody agree or disagree with me?

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    I wonder how much of these guys' opinion is derived from the success of Jump? It could be considered a pop song, but the rest of the album isn't nearly as pop-like, except maybe for I'll Wait.

    I wouldn't consider 1984 a straight up pop album. In fact, I would guess that it was highly influenced by Eddie's displeasure with Diver Down, which I would say is much more of a pop album than 1984.

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    Well i guess Van Hales was testing new waves...because (i guess it...because i was 2 years old)in that particular year every single song was very influenced by Pop music...examples? "Owner of a lonely Heart" by Yes...

    Anyway my Dave´s favorite album

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    IMHO

    I have not ever thought of 1984 as a pop album with the exceptions of JUMP & PANAMA.

    Hmmm... what exactly is pop? My guess is anything that is getting alot of air play on top 40 stations. JUMP & PANAMA both recived alot of air time in there day, JUMP has more of a pop feel to it that PANAMA in my opinion. The rest of 1984 has a real good hard rock base to it.

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    I wouldn't say it's a contrived "pop" album. It has poppy references which isn't a bad thing. All of their records do. I would say 5150 is poppier though. Pop comes from the word popular. Ain't nothing wrong with that unless you're the Backdoor Boys.

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    Yeh, I think that while VH never intended it as a 'pop' release - although it was certainly more experimental than normal, the timing of the album and the big sucess of 'jump' ment it got the publics attention, and lured plenty of non vh fans into buying it, and as such was seen as being pop.

    As Glenn said, DD was a more obvious attempt to get their teeth into a non-vh audience

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    I think some people may perceive 1984 as a pop album because of the keyboard stuff like jump and I'll wait. Also, and I may be wrong, but I think 1984 was their highest charting album at that point. I remember being a bit apprehensive when I heard Jump for the first time. I think 1984 was the beginning of the "new Van Halen" songwise at least.

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    "Jump" & "I'll Wait" are definitely "pop" songs. I didn't like "Jump" at first. Still don't really like "I'll Wait".

    Apart from that, I really don't see it as a pop album. I think the Van Hagar albums were far more in that direction than 1984 was

    "Dance The Night Away" could be considered a "pop" song, and it was the band's first charting single. But it's hardly as poppy as a cheese ballad

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    What was that guy smoking, thinkin' 84' was pop alblum?

    Sure it's "popular" cause of jump but the rest of the alblum? No way ...



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