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    The writer of "Jump The Shark" a book about when TV shows, bands and other forms of media turn the corner from great to bad was on the Howard Stern Show.

    For music is was a top ten of career ending moves made by bands.

    #1 was Milli Vannilli's live lip sync performance.

    #2 was kiss removing the make-up.

    #4 was VH continuing on without David Lee Roth.

    Not agreeing totally here, just passing along the info. Anyone else catch that?

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    Originally posted by Rocket:
    #4 was VH continuing on without David Lee Roth.
    Hmm, interesting. I guess I just imagined those eleven years that Van Halen thrived with Sammy.
    "Just once I'd like to do the right thing and not get punished for it."

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    What a ridiculous list!

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    Who here thinks that Howard Stern has "Jumped the Shark"?
    Later.

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    Just another example that shows Howard Stern is a complete idiot.
    Van Halen....2003??? In television if your on hiatus this long it's means you have been cancelled and nobody told ya.Has VH Been Cancelled and no ones telling us?? C'mon Ed give us a break and give us an update...

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    Oops read that wrong The Writer of Jump the Shark is a idiot but then again Howard Stern is too so I can see why the writer was on his show
    Van Halen....2003??? In television if your on hiatus this long it's means you have been cancelled and nobody told ya.Has VH Been Cancelled and no ones telling us?? C'mon Ed give us a break and give us an update...

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    What about Stern getting rid of Jackie?

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    Originally posted by Rocket:
    The writer of "Jump The Shark" a book about when TV shows, bands and other forms of media turn the corner from great to bad was on the Howard Stern Show.

    For music is was a top ten of career ending moves made by bands.

    #1 was Milli Vannilli's live lip sync performance.

    #2 was kiss removing the make-up.

    #4 was VH continuing on without David Lee Roth.

    Not agreeing totally here, just passing along the info. Anyone else catch that?
    Thanks for posting this info, Rocket. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    I actually like the "Jump The Shark" Web site but for the book’s author to include VH on this list is misleading and only shows that the author only likes the DLR era. That’s the author’s loss. I would freely agree that the band’s success had peaked in 1984 so there was nowhere to go but downwards after that, whether DLR stayed or Sammy joined, IMO. But to say that VH went from “great to bad” when DLR left is purely hyperbole and a biased opinion.

    We can argue online all day about what era we each prefer (I'm a fan equally of the DLR and Sammy eras) but there is no doubting that the band's biggest moments of success and impact on the music business were when they released "Van Halen" and "1984." However, the band's success and its impact on the music business with Sammy were certainly on the same level as the band’s 1979-1983 period. Yes, the band was putting out classic albums during that four-year stretch (especially “Fair Warning”) but nothing that had the combination of creativity, success (in sales and on the charts) and impact on the music industry like their first and sixth albums did. After all, a good portion of what they were releasing during that four-year stretch were cover tunes and tunes they had primarily written before they were even signed to a record contract years before. So, though the musical styles and approaches of DLR-led VH and Sammy-led VH differed somewhat -- with the former displaying a significant emphasis on hard rock and the occasional cover or pop tune, and the latter displaying slightly less emphasis on hard rock with more pop tunes – there were certainly some areas of similarity (ex. Romeo Delight/Judgment Day, The Full Bug/A.F.U., Jump/Why Can’t This Be Love, etc.). Nonetheless, I’d definitely say that the band’s overall performance (creativity, success and impact) was comparable from 1979-1983 to 1985-1996.

    I think that the author would’ve had more credibility if they had also referenced DLR’s solo career “jumping the shark” by writing, “DLR leaving VH and continuing on without them.” IMO, it may have taken several years but by the time YFLM came out and DLR had done his short-lived Vegas act, DLR's transition from being a great solo artist to a bad solo artist had fully taken place.
    "Seems the old folks who come up short were the pretty little kids who didn't want it, no." - Van Halen (1979)

    "Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall." - Confucius

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