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    Ok, so I'm reading an interview with Sammy, and the interviewer said something along the lines of the Sammy era being even bigger, commercially, than the Dave era. He said that they sold more records with Sammy (and Sammy agreed). This goes against everything I've read. According to the Official VH site, VH I and 1984 Both sold over 10 Million copies, while sammy's biggest album was 5150 at 6.9 million. Dave's albums sold, on average, 6.28 million copies, while Sammy's only averaged 4.1 million. I know that VH with Sammy had more chart success than VH with Dave (more #1 songs and all the #1 albums were with Sammy), but that doesn't mean they were more successful, it just means that Hard Rock had become mainstream by the time Sammy got there, and it's mostly because of the Dave era that it was. Could Sammy and the interviewer be talking about world-wide sales, or are they full of crap, or what?

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    They might be referring to global sales. A lot of times, an album might enter the top 10 in parts of Europe, and barely dent the top 40 in the U.S. I'm not sure if that's ever happened with VH, but it happens with other band's record sales.
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    The interviewer's wrong. Dave-era VH has outsold Sammy-era VH both in the U.S. and worldwide almost 2 to 1. Sammy's been known to tell the same inaccuracy in interviews from time to time.
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    It's also not quite a chart thing. Even though Van Halen with Dave never had a number one album, 1984 was No. 2 (and not No. 1 because of Thriller, I believe). Still, comparing the chart statistics, only the Dave-era had a No. 1 single (JUMP)...Van Hagar never managed that.

    And yes, Van Halen did not sell huge amounts of records outside of North America, but they did sell some, and far more of those were Dave records.
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    jonjuan,

    no offense to you at all bro. this record sales thing is just so fucking old! [img]graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by JMJ:
    jonjuan,

    no offense to you at all bro. this record sales thing is just so fucking old! [img]graemlins/sleep.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by ScottRoberts:
    The interviewer's wrong. Dave-era VH has outsold Sammy-era VH both in the U.S. and worldwide almost 2 to 1. Sammy's been known to tell the same inaccuracy in interviews from time to time.
    Sammy's "creative accounting" of record sales produces these figures. Here's how he gets his stats.

    Van Halen record sales from 1978-1984: X million
    Van Halen record sales from 1985-1996: Y million

    Obviously Van Halen must have sold more records during the 11 years between 1985 and 1996 than they did between 1978 and 1984. This is highly plausible, especially when you consider that Van Halen's CD sales (compact disc as an album media) was exactly ZERO units when Dave was in the band.

    I could go on and on but you get my drift. If you compared sales of the six DLR era albums to the Sammy era albums you'll get the 2:1 figure that lends more weight to the theory that Van Halen w/ Dave sold more and Sammy likes to manipulate figures in his favour.

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    I agree with Grant.
    Sam gives himself credit for the Dave-era albums sold when he was in VH. Sure, they probably sold more than if VH has disbanded in 1985, but he can't take 100% of the credit for it.
    And Y is bigger than X, that's how he calls VH more commercially succesful.
    It would be interesting to compare tour revenues and merchandising to get the full picture.

    But recently, Dave has outdone Sam at his own game.
    DLR claimed that Dave & Sam together have sold 200 million records!

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    I'd have to somewhat agree to that, I first got into Van Halen after listening to "Right Here Right Now" that my girlfriend bought. I was blown away by it. I ended up buying all the CDs, Dave era and Sammy era. Mostly because of a CD that Van Hagar put out. So yes in a way because of what Sammy and the brothers put out, kinda got me to shell out even more money for the stuff that was before him. Which is just as good, the music was much better with Dave, but I like Sammys singing. I got about 11 good CDs worth out of it all [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

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    [img]graemlins/sleep.gif[/img] This topic has been done a million times. If you want to discuss VH album sales there is a topic going on in Opinions right now about them. Topic closed.
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