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    This is NOT a Fair Warning vs Balance thread. I was just thinking about some of the similarities between these 2 albums:

    The 4th albums from the Dave and Sam eras
    Each of them sold less than the 3 previous albums from each era
    Arguably the best produced albums from each era
    Tension was running high between Eddie and the lead singer from each era
    Probably the "darkest" albums musically from each era
    The color schemes of the album covers are very similar

    The original lineup was able to survive the turmoil of 1981 before splitting up 4 years later in 1985.

    The 2nd incarnation was unable to survive the turmoil of 1995 and split up in 1996.

    Thoughts?
    "It's so lonely at the top because it's so crowded at the bottom" - Diamond David Lee Roth

    "The truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth" - Todd Wagner

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    You clearly have an overall consensus thought. Let's hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    You clearly have an overall consensus thought. Let's hear it.
    I really don't. I'm just tired of reading about HSAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    I really don't. I'm just tired of reading about HSAS.
    LOL! Who'da thunk there were so many closeted HSAS fans among so-called Dave era guys?

    Who'da thunk there were so many Journey fans among so-called Dave era guys?

    But as tired as you are about reading about HSAS...you'd be more tired listening to HSAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    This is NOT a Fair Warning vs Balance thread. I was just thinking about some of the similarities between these 2 albums:

    The 4th albums from the Dave and Sam eras
    Each of them sold less than the 3 previous albums from each era
    Arguably the best produced albums from each era
    Tension was running high between Eddie and the lead singer from each era
    Probably the "darkest" albums musically from each era
    The color schemes of the album covers are very similar

    The original lineup was able to survive the turmoil of 1981 before splitting up 4 years later in 1985.

    The 2nd incarnation was unable to survive the turmoil of 1995 and split up in 1996.

    Thoughts?
    The lyrical themes of the albums are probably the "darkest" of their respective eras, but I still feel like the more raw crunchy tones of WACF and OU812 are just as "dark" tonally, if not more, than FW and Balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    LOL! Who'da thunk there were so many closeted HSAS fans among so-called Dave era guys?

    Who'da thunk there were so many Journey fans among so-called Dave era guys?

    But as tired as you are about reading about HSAS...you'd be more tired listening to HSAS.
    Yay. Polluting another thread with douchebag bullshit again. And only 2 posts in this time!!

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    Both records start off with arguably their best track (MS and 7th Seal).

    Both records' fourth tracks have some of Edward's best rhythm and solo work in his entire catalogue (HAIL, Amsterdam).

    Both records have two of the weaker instrumentals in the catalogue (SAITP, Strung Out).

    Man. What I would give for a long lost bonus track or jam from the Fair Warning sessions...would be a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    Yay. Polluting another thread with douchebag bullshit again. And only 2 posts in this time!!
    You're stalking now. Settle down, cupcake. You're the fool who piped in about your deep seeded love of HSAS and Journey. Mister 'Dave' guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    You're stalking now. Settle down, cupcake. You're the fool who piped in about your deep seeded love of HSAS and Journey. Mister 'Dave' guy.
    Oh you mean how you've stalked me in the other thread? As DD said, you're one of t e biggest hypocrites on this site and it's biggest douchebag. Cheers.

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    Many say that VH may have been peaking with FW. I don't think anyone says that about Balance.


    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    but I still feel like the more raw crunchy tones of WACF and OU812 are just as "dark" tonally
    Hmmm....never really thought about those albums in that way but I think you are onto something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindtotheWorld View Post
    Many say that VH may have been peaking with FW. I don't think anyone says that about Balance.




    Hmmm....never really thought about those albums in that way but I think you are onto something.
    The production of WACF is raw, whereas the production on FW is polished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Both records start off with arguably their best track (MS and 7th Seal).

    Both records' fourth tracks have some of Edward's best rhythm and solo work in his entire catalogue (HAIL, Amsterdam).

    Both records have two of the weaker instrumentals in the catalogue (SAITP, Strung Out).

    Man. What I would give for a long lost bonus track or jam from the Fair Warning sessions...would be a lot.
    Definitely agree with the rhythm playing part. Especially "Amsterdam."
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    Both are my favorites from each era so I guess that's indicative of something or another.

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