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  • Van Halen I, II, & Women and Children First

    10 22.73%
  • Fair Warning

    18 40.91%
  • Diver Down

    2 4.55%
  • 1984

    10 22.73%
  • 5150

    4 9.09%
  • OU812

    1 2.27%
  • For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge

    1 2.27%
  • Balance

    4 9.09%
  • Van Halen III

    2 4.55%
  • A Different Kind of Truth

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    Van Halen II & Fair Warning!

    Then 5150 and Van Halen III (although it is like a solo record).

    IMHO, the lead singer stuff has something to do with forcing him to changes.
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    Fair Warning.
    But any of the first four could be the one.

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    I go away for a couple of years and III is suddenly NOT the worst album in music history?
    I need to stick around.

    Jokes aside, I say "Balance" due to its versatility. With III as a close second. Been listening to Van Halen quite a lot after a long break, I realized that I've acquired quite a taste for DLR-era albums, I like them a whole lot more than I used to. Even so, the conceptual angle and the musicianship from Ed on III and Balance stand out just a touch above his earlier material for me.

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    Hehe.

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    Easy.

    VH III.

    Because, by all accounts, Ed truly felt free during the making of that album. Free to express himself however he wanted through his guitar without anybody telling him otherwise. Remember, he took his band back.

    He was trying to live up to something on the previous 10 records, albeit to the immense pleasure of our listening ears. But on III, he was unfettered.

    We might not like the outcome, but Ed was at his most creative during that period of time, imo.


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    VH III is to Eddie Van Halen what Waterworld is to Kevin Costner.

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    It's true Ed did different things on VHIII, but that doesn't instantly translate to creative just cuz you did something different.
    All musicians go thru those phases. Sometimes it's creative, sometimes it's just a mess of long drawn out songs with melodies that go nowhere.
    Most bands have a VHIII in the catalog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    VH III is to Eddie Van Halen what Waterworld is to Kevin Costner.
    LOL! Costnerís a good actor but not a legend. More like VHIII is to Eddie Van Halen what Meet the Parents is to De Niro.

    Funny movie on itís own, but compared to Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas and Casino, itís dog shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    LOL! Costnerís a good actor but not a legend. More like VHIII is to Eddie Van Halen what Meet the Parents is to De Niro.

    Funny movie on itís own, but compared to Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas and Casino, itís dog shit.


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    Nice!

    Costner did star in The Untouchables, No Way Out, Bull Durham, Field Of Dreams and Dances With Wolves. Those were some pretty good movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Nice!

    Costner did star in The Untouchables, No Way Out, Bull Durham, Field Of Dreams and Dances With Wolves. Those were some pretty good movies.
    Damn good movies, indeed. Does he make em, though? I dunno.

    JFK, is another one. Personally think thatís his finest performance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Easy.

    VH III.

    Because, by all accounts, Ed truly felt free during the making of that album. Free to express himself however he wanted through his guitar without anybody telling him otherwise. Remember, he took his band back.

    He was trying to live up to something on the previous 10 records, albeit to the immense pleasure of our listening ears. But on III, he was unfettered.

    We might not like the outcome, but Ed was at his most creative during that period of time, imo.


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    Nice to see III get a bit of respect on here!
    I thought Eddie had some outstanding playing and song ideas on that album.

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    Got to go with Fair Warning and 1984. Although I and II are indeed fiery, unique albums, to me the riffs and arrangements on FW and 84 are Ed at the top of his game. The way to tunes develop. The sonic journey in each one through such well-conceived dynamics. The overdubs in 1984 in particular made me realize that the true genius of his playing is rhythm. The drama and tension in those songs is unbelievable, and yet the slippery axe hero is still there as well. Amazing work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickslide View Post
    Got to go with Fair Warning and 1984. Although I and II are indeed fiery, unique albums, to me the riffs and arrangements on FW and 84 are Ed at the top of his game. The way to tunes develop. The sonic journey in each one through such well-conceived dynamics. The overdubs in 1984 in particular made me realize that the true genius of his playing is rhythm. The drama and tension in those songs is unbelievable, and yet the slippery axe hero is still there as well. Amazing work.

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    Good call. To me, 1984 their masterpiece from the original era, for a few reasons.
    The debut had incredible guitar innovations of course, yet by and large I love Eddie's compositions and still some GTEAT guitar playing on 1984.

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    So which albums had the fewest older demos?

    I guess that isn't a true measure of creativity, but whatever album had the most songs he came up with in the period they wrote the album, where he didn't have stuff from years ago. Yes, I know he still came up with those songs, but that was over a period of years. For a true measure, I want to know the times he came up with it all just for that album.

    Truthfully, I think Balance is extremely creative from a song-writing perspective. And it sounds significantly different than most of what they'd done to that point. But I'm also not a guitarist, so maybe not his most creative or innovative playing, if that makes sense.

    All I know is the Balance tour was to me the pinnacle of the VH I knew, which started with the 1984 album. That was one tight, professional, powerful band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrk5150 View Post
    So which albums had the fewest older demos?

    I guess that isn't a true measure of creativity, but whatever album had the most songs he came up with in the period they wrote the album, where he didn't have stuff from years ago. Yes, I know he still came up with those songs, but that was over a period of years. For a true measure, I want to know the times he came up with it all just for that album.

    Truthfully, I think Balance is extremely creative from a song-writing perspective. And it sounds significantly different than most of what they'd done to that point. But I'm also not a guitarist, so maybe not his most creative or innovative playing, if that makes sense.

    All I know is the Balance tour was to me the pinnacle of the VH I knew, which started with the 1984 album. That was one tight, professional, powerful band.
    The intro to Take Me Back (Deja vu) was taken from No More Waiting, which was a demo from the club days.
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