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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    Dave expected to return in 88 and hence the original EEAS band did not break up, Billy left for creative reasons and Vai etc their contracts simply expired and chose to do other stuff. Everything was geared towards ending the solo thing in 88. Did not happen and notice everything solo wise after that seemed grabbed bag because it was. No idea why or what that 88 expectation was based on of but do know he legit expected it
    We came thisclose to VH3 never happening. That’s the real tragedy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    probably. Not sure I'd bet on it if given 20 to 1 odds. But if VH is truly done then if you're Mike, then why not?
    I don't think it will happen either, but if you're giving those odds, I'll take some of that action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    I used to work with Mike's first cousin. Back in the mid 90's, she told me about how Dave tried to sue for ownership of the Van Halen name when he left the band in 1985. Hilarious.
    What?! Holy cow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    How'd I forget about that huge interview with Pete? That was only a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    We came thisclose to VH3 never happening. That’s the real tragedy.


    If Dave expected to return in 88, then OU812 would have never happened. I can't imagine that Dave returning in 88 was ever given consideration by Ed and Al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    I don't know. When did Pete say all of this? His business relationship with Dave did not end well, so I don't know if he would go out of his way to manipulate the truth to make Dave look better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFVH5150 View Post
    What?! Holy cow.
    Yep. Dave was the one who convinced the others to name the band Van Halen back in the club days. Ed and Al wanted to call the band Rat Salad when they were changing their name from Mammoth. Mike's cousin told me that Dave trying to acquire the legal rights to the name Van Halen for himself (likely to use for his new band) after he left VH in 1985 was one of the many reasons the brothers hated him so much after the split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    If Dave expected to return in 88, then OU812 would have never happened. I can't imagine that Dave returning in 88 was ever given consideration by Ed and Al.
    Wasn't this around the time that he called to offer his condolences for the passing of their father and they accused him of trying to get back in the band? And of course if he hadn't called they would have held that against him as well. Can't win with those lunatics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    If Dave expected to return in 88, then OU812 would have never happened. I can't imagine that Dave returning in 88 was ever given consideration by Ed and Al.
    After 88, so an 89 return post Skyscraper and OU812. Dec. 31 1988 was how EEAS was built for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Yep. Dave was the one who convinced the others to name the band Van Halen back in the club days. Ed and Al wanted to call the band Rat Salad when they were changing their name from Mammoth. Mike's cousin told me that Dave trying to acquire the legal rights to the name Van Halen for himself (likely to use for his new band) after he left VH in 1985 was one of the many reasons the brothers hated him so much after the split.
    Well I knew about the first part of course but that 1985 stuff is crazy if he tried to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFVH5150 View Post
    Well I knew about the first part of course but that 1985 stuff is crazy if he tried to do that.
    Not that crazy he had as much ownership as Edward did in the partnership. It was known he was the creator of the name. WB it was known to all parties they did not want whatever the brothers did to be called van halen. So those were 3 reasons to to send a lawyer letter over and see if an angle to get what could have been a dead brand.
    Beyond a letter to see if possible it never went beyond that to my knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    If Dave expected to return in 88, then OU812 would have never happened. I can't imagine that Dave returning in 88 was ever given consideration by Ed and Al.
    The brothers were going in a different direction from Dave then..like it or not. And I think they realized the music scene was going away from Dave and the chaps, and hip thrusting and all that gay stuff..it was what it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    The brothers were going in a different direction from Dave then..like it or not. And I think they realized the music scene was going away from Dave and the chaps, and hip thrusting and all that gay stuff..it was what it was
    Even if this were true, there was nothing gayer in VH history than this


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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    The brothers were going in a different direction from Dave then..like it or not. And I think they realized the music scene was going away from Dave and the chaps, and hip thrusting and all that gay stuff..it was what it was
    Poison, Winger, Slaughter, Skid Row, Trixter, Warrant, Cindarella, White Lion and others would disagree.

    That didn't go out of style until 1991.
    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    Poison, Winger, Slaughter, Skid Row, Trixter, Warrant, Cindarella, White Lion and others would disagree.

    That didn't go out of style until 1991.
    Exactly.

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