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    Quote Originally Posted by 5150rob View Post
    you bring up some good points MF. I dont think any of us are interested in penetrating into the dark years of Ed back then or seeing him at his low drinking points. Hell I remember seeing him back in 04 up front in the Golden ring and being 3 feet away from my hero and thinking damn I feel bad for him. He was and still is my hero.
    I think what most of us would love to see including me (as much of a EVH guitar collector, player fanatic as I am) is the amps, guitars and studio pics. I can only hope the pics that would be released are gear oriented not personal oriented. I certainly understand the feelings on both sides of this equation as far as WE as fans are discussing in this thread I guess I am just a total gear fan and love the guitars and would love an opportunity to see some of the rare gems up close again like the Steinberger, EBMM, Kramer 1984 etc. Who knows though maybe there arent even any pics of those. Guess we'll see how this whole thing shakes out in the end.

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    From what the guy says, thatís what it is. Heís not painting Ed in a bad light and is avoiding including anything that would make him look bad. Itís the band in the studio putting music together, gear and studio pics. If itís available to buy, Iíll pick it up. Whether itís ďauthorizedĒ or not, who cares?

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    Exactly. Nobody should be made to feel guilty for wanting to buy this either.

    Again, if the band or Ed would do it weíd be buying it. Itís not like weíre going for the unauthorized book over the licensed EVH guitar coffee table book. There is no other option.

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    It does not bother me at all either, I want to see all the frankie photos as well as Ed playing it in the studio..
    Ed let Andrew film the EVH frankenstrat Fender promo videos, the Rise video.. and those are all taken place
    in the same spot as a lot of these photos.. in the past he did the wont get fooled again video there..
    all the EVH promo guitar shots ect.. I don't think he ever intended to keep what's in 5150 private.
    When the book is released, people will be sharing and uploading photos here and there and I guarantee
    every person here who objects to this book will intentionally take looks at these photos and not mention it,
    they just don't want to pay for it, thinking they are doing Ed some kind of favor out of loyalty..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYAB View Post
    When the book is released, people will be sharing and uploading photos here and there and I guarantee every person here who objects to this book will intentionally take looks at these photos and not mention it,

    they just don't want to pay for it, thinking they are doing Ed some kind of favor out of loyalty..
    This.

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    Pretty much all of the VH books are unauthorized but what makes this one different is theres a breach of trust & violation due to the fact that he was commisioned by EVH.

    He was invited into 5150 by EVH to work as a filmographer. For whatever the idea was compiling footage, photography & recordings. Chronicalling the studio rehearsals & whatnot. Whether they used it or not the material ideally should belong to EVH.

    For example- As an anology let's say EVH ( or anyone ), hired a photographer & video photographer to take pictures & film their Wedding. They were entrusted to do a job.

    Then the photographer/videographer keeps the material & later on decides to put out a video package & book without consent. He wouldn't of had the material if he hadn't been hired to be there & do the job. Ideally one would assume professional courtesy would be a given in this type of scenario.

    Imagine if Ted Templeman or Donn Landee all of a sudden out of the blue popped up on the internet with a VH studio package of unreleased outtakes & photographs from the recording sessions. Selling it for $500 or whatever. It's unheard of.

    Totally different from all other VH books & bootlegs & whatnot. Simply because he was hired as a professional to do a job which he did but doesn't have the proper thumbs up from EVH to sell what he's selling.

    The cover shot of the book shows a picture of an amplifier with a note attached that says, " A-Proved by EVH".....THAT is the picture he chose as a cover for the book. If you can't see the smartass cheeky punk's intention of choosing that particular photo as a book cover I don't know what to tell you. Clearly misleading & definetley on purpose.

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    Ethics aside, how much does he stand to make selling a $50 hardback coffee-table book and shipping them out with overnight delivery? Just the cost of printing a 100+ page book has to be steep.

    And of course the eventual lawsuit. The entire project makes no sense economically as well as ethically.

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    Well my guess is he probably already has at least 40 or so EVH Nutbaggers cumming in their homemade EVH striped overalls eagerly awaiting their EVH Porn so right off the bat thats at least 40 ◊ $50 = $2000.

    Probably intending to unload 100 books or so to get $5000.

    Helluva lotta time & effort & scrutiny for very little return all things considered.

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    Jeez you guys are pulling at my moral heart strings. I want to get this book. I also wanted to get the vault but not at the price it was at. I was all in on the book and now I'm questioning it.
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    Buy the book if you want it. He is honest in regards to delivering what he's selling. There is no question about him taking money & not delivering what he advertised to sell. The one guy I know of from FB was happy with his vault thingy. There's no moral shame attached to the fans that purchase from him.

    Just a little slimey the way it is knowing he is selling material the fans know EVH is against being released after being hired as a profesdional putting it out there anyways even after being blocked from the other USB Vault thing.

    It's just completley devoid of class & integraty.

    Paparazzi tabloid photographers snap photos in public places. The photos he got were taken within the confines of trust invited & paid for by the subject.

    So yeah very slimey but If he sold a live VH dvd of one of their shows I can tell you I would definetley buy it regardless of whether it was properly submitted.

    Hell- even if someone stole live VH video tapes directly from EVH or DLR after being invited into their. home & sold them as such I'd still go ahead & buy them from the scumbag. But thats just me. So far as morals & ethics go I'm not hung up or judgemental. Just telling it how it is.

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    The problem for VH fans is we know Ed is never gonna green light anything VH related. So if something of becomes available that looks interesting, Iíll get it. If VH put out a book (in an alternate universe where they actually put stuff out) Iíd buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjk View Post
    The problem for VH fans is we know Ed is never gonna green light anything VH related. So if something of becomes available that looks interesting, I’ll get it. If VH put out a book (in an alternate universe where they actually put stuff out) I’d buy it.
    this 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike zack View Post
    Jeez you guys are pulling at my moral heart strings. I want to get this book. I also wanted to get the vault but not at the price it was at. I was all in on the book and now I'm questioning it.
    Truth be told, I would have bought the vault as well if I had the cash at the time and the thing wasnít cancelled.

    I respect that others feel like that would be a betrayal to Ed. I donít feel the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5150rob View Post
    this 100%
    Quote Originally Posted by MF5150 View Post
    Truth be told, I would have bought the vault as well if I had the cash at the time and the thing wasn’t cancelled.

    I respect that others feel like that would be a betrayal to Ed. I don’t feel the same way.
    Totally agree!
    And I still have the It's About Time video saved on my other phone. Loved the sustainer use at the intro, and the behind the scenes footage. Like Mitch Malloy said - 'VH fans want to know everything!'

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    Shipping to Australia will be a fair bit too with our current currency. I will be paying more for shipping than the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dont disturb my Paradise View Post
    Shipping to Australia will be a fair bit too with our current currency. I will be paying more for shipping than the book.
    I'm going in with a couple of mates who are also getting copies so hopefully that will help bring the postage down a bit. Probably not by much though... Although, they live in Melbourne and I'm in Adelaide so I'll be paying extra again...
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