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    Ed at age 17 would have been around 1972, here are the great classics of 1932. I'm positive he knew very little of that music, but was pretty well versed on what was the new trend of '72. Now Roth on the other hand, I'm sure knew the majority of the music. In the end who cares, music has changed a lot from 1978 to 2019, much like its changed a lot from 1932-1972.

    What were the most popular songs in 1932?
    Night and Day, April in Paris, Iím Getting Sentimental Over You, In a Shanty in Old Shanty Town, Shuffle Off to Buffalo, I Told Every Little Star, How Deep Is The Ocean, Granada, Youíre an Old Smoothie, Forty-Second Street, Youíre Getting to Be a Habit, With Me

    What were the most popular albums in 1932?

    New Tiger Rag by Louis Armstrong
    Reefer Man and The Man from Harlem by Cab Calloway
    If You Were the Only Girl by Rudy Vellee
    It Donít Mean a Thing If It Ainít Got That Swing by Duke Ellington
    Well Ed was playing big band and jazz stuff with his father and classical music on piano in competition. So there is a good chance he knew that stuff well actually.

    My point is rock Ďní roll existed 30 years ago from now, it did not exist 30 years before 1972. And it barely existed 30 years for us in the 80s. I can guarantee you, Eddie Van Halenís knowledge of music and artists in 1972 destroys anything that Billie Eilish knows. Ed was an accomplished champion competition musician who could play by ear. Thatís a seriously silly comparison.

    The other comparison you guys are making isnít the same thing. Ed knew a ton of music from the beginning of rock Ďní roll. She clearly doesnít have a strong grasp of the history of the genre. And I donít think she needs to, but comparing her generation to ours is just silly.
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    I just listened to the question again.

    Kimmel asked if she knows who Madonna is. Yes, she knows Madonna. Then he asks "Can you name a Van Halen?"

    What an awkward question. If he asked "can you name a member of the band Van Halen" she'd probably say "no" and it would be fine.

    I think she was caught off guard. Not that it matters but that's what I think after rewatching it.

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    The reality of it is...WGAf. Piss on her.... lmmfao
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    I wonder which brand new artist in 1984 would say they have no clue who was the big hit makers of 1959. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billbo...ingles_of_1959



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    How you gonna stop this thread? She sucks. Iíve heard her music. Iíd rather listen to raccoons fuck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby5150 View Post
    I wonder which brand new artist in 1984 would say they have no clue who was the big hit makers of 1959. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billbo...ingles_of_1959


    Well I know who most of them are so I am sure they did back in 84.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    I think also we get the comparisons wrong. We think, "wait a second, in the 80s, we still knew who Led Zeppelin was!"

    But in the 80s, we were only 10 years removed from Zep!
    Here we're talking 30 years!
    So a more apt comparison would be if in the 80s, we were familiar with stuff from the 50s. Like
    Paul Anka... well we weren't. Nobody cared about the 50s in the 80s. I would say actually that the 80s are a bit more remembered today than the 50s were in the 80s.

    In other words, time flies, it's already 30 years later, and we're old. Fuck.
    Yeah, that's why I made the comparison earlier, about how most of my friends in high school had no idea who all the jazz and big band greats were. But, I'd say it's even worse nowadays. Here today, gone later today.

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    good...the less people that know about 'our little band' the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRFC View Post
    Nothing against her at all. She does seem very cool.

    Not many people are upset she doesn't know VH. The overwhelming response to this has been that she has no reason to know who they are.

    That's what is upsetting to me. On paper, everyone should know the path they created, both musically and influentially. They were rock pioneers. Then they re-invented themselves as Billboard's pop darlings.

    It's basically the 20 year-long discussion we've all had about what they've done to their legacy, blowing up on twitter.
    Excellent post.

    As much as it was hard to listen through an entire track, Billie Whatshername is certainly gifted. But...her ignorance of Van Halen is sad, if not troubling, for the very reasons that you noted.

    My forefathers came from Italy, and as a result, as a child, I was given to many sessions of: "You sit here and watch Pavarotti with the rest of us, and Lord help you if you make a sound."

    I still don't care for Pavarotti, yet his giftedness is undeniable.

    So too, with Van Halen: their contribution to music is indelible. How this is not carried from one generation to the next, is, at the very minimum, a shame.
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    Billie Eilish is great. Van Halen fans suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby5150 View Post
    I think Drew Magary had a solid tweet about the subject. If you think Billie Eilish is a bit oblivious to music, you should see how oblivious Eddie Van Halen is to music. I think we've all read the same interview a million times "Last album I bought was So"

    https://twitter.com/drewmagary/statu...27915088883714

    Yeah, sometimes Eddie has been really over the top with that. He doesn't listen to other people's music, he can't name any other guitarists that he's impressed by, etc. I don't know where it comes from but he seems to have a hard time even acknowledging that he's even aware that other bands exist, to a sometimes comical level.

    I'm reading Martin Popoff's VH book and in the long chapter about the US Festival:

    The whole idea of Heavy Metal Day seemed to be lost on Eddie Van Halen. "I didn't even realize what bands played with us; it didn't even hit me until I was over at Donn's house watching it on Showtime. ... and it wasn't until sitting at Donn's house watching the tube and seeing who actually played with us that it dawned on me."

    Seriously? He didn't even know what other bands played that day until he saw it on TV? Every band I've ever seen interviewed about it talked about how there was the big community area in the back and with all the bands interacting. I don't know, it seems hard to believe to me.

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    This Billie Eilish girl sucks and her music sucks. All her weird fans feeling like they have to take down Van Halen is the part that is so frustrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Van Halen should be real proud. Only way to get publicity is because someone doesnít know who they are. Itís pretty sad.
    Right? The last few times VH has made waves on the internet is because Dave crashed a bachelor party where no one recognized him, and then a Tool fan asks Eddie to take a picture of him in front of the stage without recognizing who he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT121 View Post
    This Billie Eilish girl sucks and her music sucks. All her weird fans feeling like they have to take down Van Halen is the part that is so frustrating
    Her fans are 14 years old dude.
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    Wouldn't it be great if after all of this she comes out on stage somewhere and plays "Eruption."

 

 

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