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    Look I know why they did it. Everyone hated those USC teams. They were arrogant, they were winning a lot and they were looking for some reason to nail them. And they found it. I think penalizing innocent players that did nothing but play football, and take their title over something that had nothing to do with play on the field was just stupid. But whatevs at this point, itís 15 years ago.
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    Seems that most owners think that the penalties are a joke. And most agree that they should have lost the championship. Nobody is allowed to say anything or Manfred will come down heavier on them for dissenting thoughts in public. There was a big story on ESPN today. The Dodgers aren’t even allowed to comment on anything. That’s bullshit too.

    Yeah and the Astros should have lost their title. That was total bullshit as well. They were caught cheating during the post season where they won the World Series. They have no business keeping that championship. If MLB had really done the right thing they would have stripped the title from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Seems that most owners think that the penalties are a joke. And most agree that they should have lost the championship. Nobody is allowed to say anything or Manfred will come down heavier on them for dissenting thoughts in public. There was a big story on ESPN today. The Dodgers arenít even allowed to comment on anything. Thatís bullshit too.

    Yeah and the Astros should have lost their title. That was total bullshit as well. They were caught cheating during the post season where they won the World Series. They have no business keeping that championship. If MLB had really done the right thing they would have stripped the title from them.
    Yeah the Dodgers twitter account posted the canned statement that basically said "we're not allowed to comment so take this as our comment."

    It doesn't take a genius to figure out there were double-barreled middle fingers hidden behind that text. They have every right to be outraged.
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    And see ya later Cora. People around here were starting to question why the Sox were waiting and/or why he hasnít resigned. Sounds like a little of both.

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    No big surprise.

    Beltran needs to be fired too.
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    I just rewatched game 5 of World Series 2017.
    As a Dodger fan , this made me sick.
    How the title wasnt taken I'll never get it. and nothing happened to the players. Vomit

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Clayton Kershaw blowing 4-0 and 7-4 leads in game 5 of the 2017 World Series after allowing just 1 run on 3 hits in 7 innings in game 1 makes a lot more sense given that the Astros' hitters knew every pitch that was coming in game 5. Lame.
    and then they Scored 4 runs off Brandon Morrow in 6 pitches. He had been unhittable the entire postseason.

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    this whole thing is really disturbing me. everybody's looking for an edge, but there's a line and you HAVE to know where it is and stay on the good side of it.
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    this whole thing is really disturbing me. everybody's looking for an edge, but there's a line and you HAVE to know where it is and stay on the good side of it.
    I'm pretty pissed about the whole thing myself.
    They knew where the line was and had no problems crossing it. Well, they caused a problem and will suffer from it.
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    This is straight-up cheating. This is not a runner on second looking in at the catcher and trying to signal his teammate at the plate what pitch might be coming. This is using technology to steal signs and CHEAT. Pete Rose was banned for life for what he did, and rightly so. These guys should get the same lifetime ban.

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    What bugs me is the players who really orchestrated this got off Scot Free because they tattled on everyone else. Theyíre really the biggest douchebags in this. And I think you can question their batting average and numbers too when they knew some of the time the pitches that were coming to them. The whole thing is so fucking despicable. Didnít Josť Altuve win the batting title and MVP that year? Those need to be stripped.

    Yeah Iím extra pissed off because as a Dodger fan because it appears this shit happened to the team twice in the World Series. Iím sure you guys would be fucking furious too. And I am even more furious that they wonít take away the championships that the teams donít deserve. Again you donít give it to the Dodgers, you just donít give it to anybody.
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    The Astros and Red Sox should have to vacate their titles. This is so damaging to the integrity of the game.

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    CC Sabathia was on the radio today and he was pretty pissed about it.
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    But I think that’s where the problem is. You already have no champion in 1994 - now you vacate two more? 1994 is a big thorn in MLB history - 1981 was a cluster fuck but there was a champion, so people don’t dwell on the rest. And only Red Sox fans dwell on ‘72. But 1994, there’s that black hole that can’t be filled. It may be wrong, but if I’m the commissioner I just want to put as much distance between this as quickly as I can and put it out of peoples’ minds, and vacating those championships would keep that from happening.

    They’ve got a mess, and it’s worse in my opinion than the steroids. But in my mind, the game is already tainted with all the analytics and computers and all that. I don’t care how good any player today appears, I don’t care what their WAR is - they’ll never compare to Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Pete Rose (as a player) and all the rest. They didn’t need computers to tell them how to play the game. No analytics to have the shortstop playing second base and the second baseman playing right field. You want to watch computers play a game, get a frickin’ Xbox or PlayStation. Sports should be me against you; my team against your team - settle it on the field, not on the hard drive.
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    If you think your team isn't doing something similar then you're fooling yourself. This sort of thing has been going on for a decade.

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