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    Severino of NY was talked about tipping his pitches against Houston and Boston. He may have been but the sign stealing may have also been the culprit as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    They should have stripped the title as well. The fine is nothing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    I realize it's a difficult situation to police, but it just seems wrong that the players are going to get away with this. They're all grown men and knew what they were doing was wrong. It's probably because the MLBPA would step in and throw a fit if there was major punishment handed down, but it just seem shitty that there's probably only 3 or 4 people that will actually get punished for this.

    How long before Hinch and Lunhow have jobs in the MLB again after they serve their suspension?
    They would have to prove each individual player was guilty of it, that is a big ask, so they went to the tone at the top.
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    I guess the warning issued across baseball after the Red Sox Apple Watch idiocy was that the GM and Manager were going to absorb the brunt of the punishment for future transgressions - basically "institutional control" issues.

    That and they don't have to fight the players association if they hammer management...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    The fine was the maximum allowed.
    So I guess the owner had no idea any of this was going on? lol Just think 5 million is chump change to an MLB owner. This aint Jimmy Irsay snorting coke and doing hookers. This was over the top cheating and manipulation of the integrity of the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    So I guess the owner had no idea any of this was going on? lol Just think 5 million is chump change to an MLB owner. This aint Jimmy Irsay snorting coke and doing hookers. This was over the top cheating and manipulation of the integrity of the sport.
    I think it is very plausible that an owner wouldn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I think it is very plausible that an owner wouldn't know.
    You have to have confidence in the comish to keep the game on the up and up and trust that he has investigated this case inside and out. I would like to see an independent investigator brought in similar to what Louie Freeh did at Penn St. Has anyone thought this thing could have tentacles into gambling too? I really don't trust pro sports commissoners overpaid by the owners. Not in this day and age.
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    Saw this, can't take credit for it, but I thought it was funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Game 7 was at Dodger Stadium, so the Astros didn't have access to the center field camera. Game 3 in Houston when Darvish started was a different story.

    Pitiful.
    They could have been using the game feed that plays inside the stadium that isn't on a delay. With an HD monitor you can easily see what signs are being put down in real time without needing to zoom in. You can also have more old fashioned tactics with binoculars and body language to relay that information as well. I can't imagine an organization that went this far to cheat would stop in the most important game in franchise history.
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    Seems that most owners think that the penalties are a joke. And most agree that they should have lost the championship. Nobody is allowed to say anything or Manfred will come down heavier on them for dissenting thoughts in public. There was a big story on ESPN today. The Dodgers arenít even allowed to comment on anything. Thatís bullshit too.

    Yeah and the Astros should have lost their title. That was total bullshit as well. They were caught cheating during the post season where they won the World Series. They have no business keeping that championship. If MLB had really done the right thing they would have stripped the title from them.
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    Have you guys seen all the interviews posted of that piece of shit Hinch denying that they would ever engage in something like that and how dare anyone question them and blah blah blah blah blah? What a sanctimonious lying prick. He sat there and lied to everyone with a smile on his face, and his moral superiority. No surprise that organization is full of a bunch of arrogant fuckheads. From management to the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    what does stripping a title even mean? Does anyone really think that USC weren't the champions anywhere after the NCAA stripped it?
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    I do.
    Well unfortunately for you they still have the AP title from that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    just makes you wonder if there is any sport that's pure any more with all the technology out there.
    I'd say youth sports but even there you have parents and coaches that pull shit and cheat.

    We had kids cheating in my son's cross country meets by cutting the course around the back side where no one could see them. We had to station a course monitor back there to put a stop to it.

    The urge to take short cuts or win at all costs is powerful and many simply can't control thrmselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Well unfortunately for you they still have the AP title from that year.
    Yeah, and let's get real. They weren't doing anything that their competition wasn't doing either, they just got caught.

    You could probably nail any power 5 conference team on some rules violation if you really wanted to. Which tells me that the rules are the problem and not the schools. It shouldn't be a violation to give some kid an airline ticket to go home to see his family over the holidays. If you're a business student and someone does that nobody cares. But if you play a sport, it's a no-no.
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