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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Jason Bonham is not Alex Van Halen.

    Vic Johnson is not even Brett Norton, not to mention Eddie Van Halen.

    Jason is terrible playing the VH tunes. It's like Jason...."did you listen to the records?

    Awful.

    Vic is ok but no where near Ed. Vic Butchers the Poundcake harmonics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snare812 View Post
    Jason is terrible playing the VH tunes. It's like Jason...."did you listen to the records?

    Awful.

    Vic is ok but no where near Ed. Vic Butchers the Poundcake harmonics.
    Careful. You'll be accused of "bashing Sam" with comments like that.

    Even though you are writing the truth...

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    Not many can cop Al's groove. I saw some footage of Sam's birthday thing and i'm not sure who the drummer was, but he was also way off Al's groove. I think Jason Bonham is a great drummer though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalFB View Post
    Not many can cop Al's groove. I saw some footage of Sam's birthday thing and i'm not sure who the drummer was, but he was also way off Al's groove. I think Jason Bonham is a great drummer though.
    Bonham is a great player. There's no shame in not being in Al's class. But, yes, he doesnt have Al's groove or feel, even though none of the VH songs they are playing are among Al's best or most interesting lines.

    But that just illustrates how difficult it is to replicate AVH on what seem to be straightforward lines. WIL is a master class in touch and feel and playing to serve the song, but Bonham sounds like he's playing that tune with 2 lb sledgehammers.

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    Some things I just don't understand. Like hearing How Many Say I and thinking it needs to be on an album. Another is knowing that VH will be in your live catalog yet you hire a guitarist who handles it as well as Edward Scissorhands doing hand stuff to a woman.

    I am surprised with Jason though. Thought he would do better.

    That said you simply just can't copy Ed and Alex's sense of timing.

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    Bonham is a great drummer, just solid. He has a very distinctive style and it works for him with zepplin material. Style wise he is just too distinctive and different than Alex for it to work. Its like whatever Eddie plays he still sounds like Eddie not whoever he is covering. Bonham is not that level but he does have a very distinct sound and the gap gets a spotlight when he plays stuff by someone who also is distinctive but in a different way.

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    "Incel". Someone learned a new word this week. Maybe from a self help book?

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    John bonham is a great drummer. Especially emulating his dad. But as a rock drummer covering someone elseís music, not so much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    John bonham is a great drummer. Especially emulating his dad. But as a rock drummer covering someone else’s music, not so much.


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    I agree that Bonham playing VH tunes isn't nearly the same but he's world's better than Lauser....and I like Lauser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Cool interview but I will never agree with Samís statement about the Circle playing VH songs as good as VH played them. No way.
    Not as long as Vic is the guitarist. I could get with the rest of it if he had a great guitarist. They'd be close, probably.
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    I know Sam addressed why CF isn't doing anything in the interview (loves the chemistry with Chad and Chad is always touring) but he obviously loves playing with Jason. I mean Jason is currently in The Circle and they made an album. So obviously there is chemistry there. I realize that he may not be Chad but considering you can get Joe and Mike to make an album, why not simply settle for a a compromise?

    I mean IMO Satch, Mike and Jason is a bit better than Vic, Mike and Jason. It may not be Chad but given the choice of recording with Vic or Satch, well it seems kind of easy. Heck you don't even need to call it CF> Call it Turkeyfoot, Moose Knuckle or Crows Feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    John bonham is a great drummer. Especially emulating his dad. But as a rock drummer covering someone else’s music, not so much.


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    I used to agree with everyone here: Jason didn't do the VH material justice. However after playing it for several years, I've noticed some notable improvements. Still not as good as AVH, but I've always thought that it was actually HARDER to emulate AVH than to copy EVH. I've pretty much never heard a VH cover with up to par drumming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    I do not think that word means what you think it means. Theyíre virtually the same thing, redhead.

    At. Rest. SIippity.
    No, it means when one is prejudice of those from other countries, is argumentative, hypocritical, and acts condescending towards others because they can't think of anything funnier to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFVH5150 View Post
    No, it means when one is prejudice of those from other countries, is argumentative, hypocritical, and acts condescending towards others because they can't think of anything funnier to say.
    I guess thatís your attempt at being funny.
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