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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I played a USA wolf at GC last year and was supremely disappointed. Maybe itís a one off thing but I was not impressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Foamfoot View Post
    I've played all three and the EBMM is the best product... hands down. The other two certainly are very good guitars, but there seems to be a better level of quality with the EBMM - maybe because they weren't mass produced?. I own one that was born in 1992.. and it's my "daily driver" for the last 15 years: rehearsing, recording, gigging, couch-lounging. I like the neck for the very reason Jedi doesn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by KS 5150 View Post
    I've had two Peavey Wolfgangs, & currently have a Music Man EVH. The EBMM all day long for me


    I've played several EVH Wolfs & the majority are just ok, imho. That said, there's a sweet Candy Apple Red Special nearby....
    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    1. EBMMóquality
    2. Peavey USA Standard
    3. Fender
    I gotta tell you that I am extremely surprised to see Peavey ahead of Fender. Then again, I don't know what EVH's royalty fees are for each guitar sold, and it's gotta come outta somewhere.

    Take the Indonesian made Wolfgang Standard for example. The Mexican made Strat is priced just above it, but I suspect that it's way ahead of the EVH guitar in terms of quality.

    Here's a guitar that is simply beautiful....can't afford one, but I can dream :

    https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/...tric-Guitar.gc

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    So what kind of guitars do y'all play then? What is your main axe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    Take the Indonesian made Wolfgang Standard for example. The Mexican made Strat is priced just above it, but I suspect that it's way ahead of the EVH guitar in terms of quality.
    Not really man. There is nothing wrong with the quality of the Indo Wolfs, or most Indo-made guitars for that matter.

    I've had plenty of Indonesian guitars, and probably even more Mexican strats. If you are happy with the pickups, and know how to set your guitar up, it could be made in Tim-Buk-2. Guitar production Technology as well as quality control has come a very long way since the 80s. It's about economics. The labor is cheaper overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post
    Not really man. There is nothing wrong with the quality of the Indo Wolfs, or most Indo-made guitars for that matter.

    I've had plenty of Indonesian guitars, and probably even more Mexican strats. If you are happy with the pickups, and know how to set your guitar up, it could be made in Tim-Buk-2. Guitar production Technology as well as quality control has come a very long way since the 80s. It's about economics. The labor is cheaper overseas.

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    Appreciate the education...thanks
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    Interesting article...I've always wondered who really came up with the d-tuna design.

    My thoughts:

    My main gigging guitar is the Peavey Wolfgang. I like the larger neck, the larger frets and the carved top. I did swap out the bridge pickup for something slightly less mid-rangy (DiMarzio Norton) I also modified the electronics with push pull pots for coil splitting.

    That being said, I also love the EBMM, and have had two. I think the shape of it is cooler looking, and the quilted tops are great. I think the stock pickups are the best sounding of all of Ed's signature models... closer to the early sound. My only dislike are the smaller frets.

    Never owned any of the Fender EVH stuff...can't do the small frets (however stainless steel frets are where it's at) and the pickups are too much like Ed's current tone for my taste.

    I guess my ultimate Ed type guitar would be the Musicman shape, with the Peavey neck, the Musicman pickups and a carved maple top with large stainless frets.

    Your mileage may vary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jin-jin View Post
    Never owned any of the Fender EVH stuff...can't do the small frets (however stainless steel frets are where it's at) and the pickups are too much like Ed's current tone for my taste.
    I think they got the pickups right when it comes to the Fenders. Itíll sound like current EVH if you play them through a 5150 III, but they also sound very good in other amps. That was one complaint with the Peaveys, that they were just meant for high gain sizzle. The Fenders are more well-rounded, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielleesale View Post
    I think they got the pickups right when it comes to the Fenders. It’ll sound like current EVH if you play them through a 5150 III, but they also sound very good in other amps. That was one complaint with the Peaveys, that they were just meant for high gain sizzle. The Fenders are more well-rounded, I think.
    100% agree. Ed's modern tone isn't as much a result of the pickups as it is scooping the mids, high gain, and the mic being directly on the speaker grill. That causes the focused, nasally tone that he suffered from. The nasal focus seemed to get better in 2015, but it was still too much gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    I gotta tell you that I am extremely surprised to see Peavey ahead of Fender. Then again, I don't know what EVH's royalty fees are for each guitar sold, and it's gotta come outta somewhere.

    Take the Indonesian made Wolfgang Standard for example. The Mexican made Strat is priced just above it, but I suspect that it's way ahead of the EVH guitar in terms of quality.

    Here's a guitar that is simply beautiful....can't afford one, but I can dream :

    https://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender/...tric-Guitar.gc

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    So what kind of guitars do y'all play then? What is your main axe?
    Nice Strat! Buddy of mine just got an American Professional Stratocaster, & absolutely loves it

    The one thing I noticed about the first two USA EVH Wolfgangs I tried out back in 2010, was how sharp the frets were. Other guitars in the store had a bit of fret sprout, but they were razor sharp lol

    I've got a decent collection: 3 Gibson Les Pauls (R9, Custom, Traditional), Gibson SG, Gibson Explorer, 1993 Music Man EVH, Kramer 5150 aged replica built by a member here, Fender Telecaster & Stratocaster, Godin acoustic. My main axe is definitely my Les Paul '59 reissue, it is amazing! Pic below. I'm also curious as to the other collections that lurk here

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    I have at least one of all three. To me, the Fenders are the most comfortable. They all kick ass but I prefer the 12 to 16 compound radius of the Fenders....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS 5150 View Post
    Nice Strat! Buddy of mine just got an American Professional Stratocaster, & absolutely loves it

    The one thing I noticed about the first two USA EVH Wolfgangs I tried out back in 2010, was how sharp the frets were. Other guitars in the store had a bit of fret sprout, but they were razor sharp lol

    I've got a decent collection: 3 Gibson Les Pauls (R9, Custom, Traditional), Gibson SG, Gibson Explorer, 1993 Music Man EVH, Kramer 5150 aged replica built by a member here, Fender Telecaster & Stratocaster, Godin acoustic. My main axe is definitely my Les Paul '59 reissue, it is amazing! Pic below. I'm also curious as to the other collections that lurk here

    IMG-0976.jpg
    That's an absolutely beautiful guitar!

    Everyone in my social circle sees me as a Van Halen fan of fans, but every time I come onto this forum, I am outclassed by y'all

    As for frets, you're not the first person to say that.
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    I've owned one of each. The only one I still have is the EVH USA, but even then I don't play it much because I have a bunch of EVH Wolf specials I use swap around as daily drivers. It's just a bonus that I'm trying to keep it in pretty good condition, as it's part of the first run of Stealths with the original finish/texture.

    I like the pickups in the EBMM the most, but they're pretty close. I've swapped the pickups around a lot. They're all slightly different and they definitely complement the guitars they were designed around. I put a set of EVHs in a Peavey body once, and that was cool, and I have an EVH with Peavey pickups still.

    I find the compound radius and vintage SS frets the most comfortable, and I find myself reaching for those guitars more often than otherwise.

    I have Wolfgang's with OFRs, Korean Floyds, Schaller Peavey floyds, and GOTOH floyds. I like the GOTOH bridges the most, actually.

    I like the original EBMM neck shape the most (that worn-in indent up by the nut is so comfortable), Peaveys the least, and Wolfgangs a close runner-up. I have over a dozen different EVH necks, at least one from every manufacturing location, those are mostly equal with the standards falling a bit behind.

    In overall body/electronic feel, I like the EVH the most.

    So I think the EVH wins it in my book.

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    As a non player, from a drummer's perspective, from a purely aesthetic point of view the EBMM was the ugliest body shape of Ed's guitars. Too round and bloated looking. Always liked the sleeker, sharper angled design of the Peavey and EVH better. Guitar players, feel free to sling your rocks at me now.

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    Default The Wolfgang Saga: How 3 Brands Built Eddie Van Halen's Signature Guitar

    Quality-wise the EBMM smokes the other two, itís not even close.

    But Iíll be honest with you guys, I donít find playing that guitar all that comfortable anymore. Iím just used to flatter, wider necks now, so I have a hard time even playing that guitar when I do pick it up. Mine is very beat up from years of gigging in my 20ís and also living through a terrible earthquake where everything in the world fell on it.

    To me the Peavey is a much more comfortable guitar than the EBMM. And I have a Pat Pending Standard that I feel blows away any Fender version Iíve tried. Iím just not a fan of the craftsmanship on the Fender versions. I just think some of them feel like really cheap guitars. I know a lot of guys will totally disagree with me but itís just how Iíve felt when Iíve tried them.

    Also unlike most guys I donít use my EBMM or Wolfgang very much anymore unless itís in the house once in a while when I play stuff in standard tuning. Otherwise Iím not really playing them anymore. I just donít like my guitars to feel differently which is probably why I tend to use the ones that I have built that have the exact same neck on them all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    As a non player, from a drummer's perspective, from a purely aesthetic point of view the EBMM was the ugliest body shape of Ed's guitars. Too round and bloated looking. Always liked the sleeker, sharper angled design of the Peavey and EVH better. Guitar players, feel free to sling your rocks at me now.
    I think all those EBMM guitars are unattractive, but the VH model was a total WTF moment for me
    at the time.

    I was surprised he chose that body shape, especially after playing strat shaped guitars for so long.
    It just looked too round & fat.

    I'm sure the guitars are great players & high quality, yet i just never enjoyed the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Quality-wise the EBMM smokes the other two, itís not even close.

    But Iíll be honest with you guys, I donít find playing that guitar all that comfortable anymore. Iím just used to flatter, wider necks now, so I have a hard time even playing that guitar when I do pick it up. Mine is very beat up from years of gigging in my 20ís and also living through a terrible earthquake where everything in the world fell on it.

    To me the Peavey is a much more comfortable guitar than the EBMM. And I have a Pat Pending Standard that I feel blows away any Fender version Iíve tried. Iím just not a fan of the craftsmanship on the Fender versions. I just think some of them feel like really cheap guitars. I know a lot of guys will totally disagree with me but itís just how Iíve felt when Iíve tried them.

    Also unlike most guys I donít use my EBMM or Wolfgang very much anymore unless itís in the house once in a while when I play stuff in standard tuning. Otherwise Iím not really playing them anymore. I just donít like my guitars to feel differently which is probably why I tend to use the ones that I have built that have the exact same neck on them all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    As a non player, from a drummer's perspective, from a purely aesthetic point of view the EBMM was the ugliest body shape of Ed's guitars. Too round and bloated looking. Always liked the sleeker, sharper angled design of the Peavey and EVH better. Guitar players, feel free to sling your rocks at me now.
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