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    I loved Sammy's acoustic version of Give to Live, from RHRN.
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    I have no dog in this fight, I just have a question: how much different is the acoustic version of Everlong than the original? I think if you take an electric tune and rework it so it's almost a different animal is really cool. Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Maybe when HE wrote it?

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    That's not what I meant. I meant when did Dave learn to fingerpick at this level? I never heard stories of Dave buying his first guitar, Dave woodshedding and learning the ropes, working on his technique, etc. Curious about this aspect of Dave's skills that rarely gets mentioned. Even by his most loyal fans.
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    I thought the DT sessions from ADKOT were pretty much the best parts of ADKOT, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    It's a great song indeed, but I don't think that it's an original.
    But it...is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    More than competent, really good playing. But when and where did Dave learn it well enough to play it in the studio?
    Good Lord. On second thought, just keep doing drugs, since youve seemingly already burned most of your brain out. In Ed's first Guitar World cover interview, 1981 IIRC, he talks about CTBM and how Dave and he had different interpretations of how the rhythm of the song should go, or something like that. I think he was actually taking a dig at Dave's playing on the song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    It's a great song indeed, but I don't think that it's an original.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    That's not what I meant. I meant when did Dave learn to fingerpick at this level? I never heard stories of Dave buying his first guitar, Dave woodshedding and learning the ropes, working on his technique, etc. Curious about this aspect of Dave's skills that rarely gets mentioned. Even by his most loyal fans.
    Dave played a song live in studio on the radio where he sang and accompanied himself on acoustic. Angel Eyes maybe?

    Van Halen Rising also talks about him sitting around and singing while strumming an acoustic guitar. He'd been doing it long before he joined Van Halen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    It's a great song indeed, but I don't think that it's an original.
    Wait, you think CTBM is a cover?
    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    It's a great song indeed, but I don't think that it's an original.
    It is. Dave brought it to Eddie and they took it from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad to the Bone View Post
    I have no dog in this fight, I just have a question: how much different is the acoustic version of Everlong than the original? I think if you take an electric tune and rework it so it's almost a different animal is really cool. Just my opinion.
    It's mildly different -- same structure for the most part. Exact same melody whispered an octave lower instead of shouted. I would say it compares to most acoustic versions a band does without much altering. I agree with your opinion, when you barely recognize the song outside of familiar lyrics and some melody because it was reworked well. I know Springsteen isn't popular here but he has a few like Born in the USA on a slide guitar. Layla acoustic is a great example of one that is reworked enough that it's a different animal -- has a swing to it and the melody is adjusted.

    But no, back to your point Everlong is really just an unplugged version of the same song. Which is why I thought it has no business on this list. You can take any great song and find a concert version the band did once acoustically and include it. The Stones have done their hits acoustically like Beast of Burden. This writer just heard the Grohl one on Stern. Shit -- they did Message in a Bottle on Stern once. Fogerty's Have You Ever Seen the Rain was really good. So if you are going to count songs not reworked but just played once acoustically, you can essentially include every song ever. That was my gripe. Yes. Off my soapbox now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    Dave played a song live in studio on the radio where he sang and accompanied himself on acoustic. Angel Eyes maybe?

    Van Halen Rising also talks about him sitting around and singing while strumming an acoustic guitar. He'd been doing it long before he joined Van Halen.
    I thought Angel Eyes was a demo Dave did for VH2. The song he did on the radio show was (I think) called 79th and Sunset or Real Go Getter (one of the lines in the song is "she's a real go getter, in her tight red sweater"). it's pretty cool. for not being a full time guitar player Dave does a good job on the stuff he plays on. I think he also plays the intro to The Full Bug (but I could be wrong).

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    looks to be fingerpicking here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DRFC View Post
    It's mildly different -- same structure for the most part. Exact same melody whispered an octave lower instead of shouted. I would say it compares to most acoustic versions a band does without much altering. I agree with your opinion, when you barely recognize the song outside of familiar lyrics and some melody because it was reworked well. I know Springsteen isn't popular here but he has a few like Born in the USA on a slide guitar. Layla acoustic is a great example of one that is reworked enough that it's a different animal -- has a swing to it and the melody is adjusted.

    But no, back to your point Everlong is really just an unplugged version of the same song. Which is why I thought it has no business on this list. You can take any great song and find a concert version the band did once acoustically and include it. The Stones have done their hits acoustically like Beast of Burden. This writer just heard the Grohl one on Stern. Shit -- they did Message in a Bottle on Stern once. Fogerty's Have You Ever Seen the Rain was really good. So if you are going to count songs not reworked but just played once acoustically, you can essentially include every song ever. That was my gripe. Yes. Off my soapbox now.
    that's cool. No argument from me. I was just curious as to how different the 2 versions were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad to the Bone View Post
    I thought Angel Eyes was a demo Dave did for VH2. The song he did on the radio show was (I think) called 79th and Sunset or Real Go Getter (one of the lines in the song is "she's a real go getter, in her tight red sweater"). it's pretty cool. for not being a full time guitar player Dave does a good job on the stuff he plays on. I think he also plays the intro to The Full Bug (but I could be wrong).
    "Angel Eyes" was from the '74 Cherokee Studios demo but was in consideration for VHII. "79th and Sunset" was actually a Humble Pie cover.

    Also of note--Dave did all of "Could This Be Magic?" on his radio show one time. He was teaching guitar picking on his show, and yes, he fucked up the words!
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