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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Completely agree.

    Which is why i'm glad he's doing the EVH in a more compact, strat style.

    Could never understand the attraction to those EBMM, round bodies.
    I guess the Peavey was slightly less pronounced, but still too round.
    Never liked the amber quilts, or whatever they were called, either.
    Gimme a straight up solid color, but that's just me.

    And, yeah, Les Paul's are iconic, but the SG was the much better alternative:

    Lighter, cooler looking with horns, high fret access, ballsy tone, great necks...

    I never understood someone playing a Les Paul, with all it's cumbersome weight
    and awkward fret access.

    Just play an SG!
    I bought a les Paul in 2015 and I hated them for years. But no guitar sounds as good as this thing. I have an EBMM EVH, kramers and a firebird and the LP blows them away. With the red EBMM I have a close 2nd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi McFly View Post
    In context this seems to be about the prototype Floyds, not the Bee specifically. It doesn't even sound like he had put a Floyd on the Bee at this point.

    GP: Was that the guitar you took on the second tour?

    EVH: I used that one plus the original one from the first album for the first half of the tour, and then I ran into Floyd Rose, and he showed me his special bridge and nut for keeping a Strat in tune. I said, ďWhat the hell ó Iíll give it a try.Ē Iím up for anything. So I had Boogie Bodies make me a mahogany body thatís fit to my size, and I put the Rose device on it. The body is a Strat-style, but itís 2 1/2″ thick, which is thicker than a Les Paul. The Rose tailpiece gets a thin sound, and I thought a chunky piece of wood could make up for the thickness. It works a little bit. That guitar has a Gibson PAF and just one volume knob ó itís real simple.

    I interpret that as he had already put the Floyd in the Bee, even though it is not mentioned.
    How else would he come to the conclusion that "the Rose gets a thin sound", and needed to make a thicker mahogany body to compensate for it?
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    Whoah, leave for a little bit, and the thread explodes!

    Yep, we all have a freewill folks, and how we use it is what makes us who we are, totally agree with that.

    IMHO,
    If somebody gave up an item in honor, to lay to rest with someone, and then later turned around and started producing likenesses of that item for their own profit, then it wasn't really given up with honor.
    It's like cloning a sacrificed lamb.

    IMHO,
    The honorable thing to do when approached about a marketing possibility, would be to say "no, I will not have you produce that item, out of honor for the recipient" RIP
    There's plenty of other marketing avenues.

    IMHO,
    Apparently, the iconic Bee has become more important historically to most of you, than the human being it was buried with, in an act of honor.
    I have my own understanding of the phrase Laid to Rest, and that's what I thought it meant.

    IMHO,
    It has nothing to do with capitalism, or socialism, or whatever else was mentioned.
    It's about honor and integrity.
    The Bee isn't the only thing with a little yellow in it
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    Quote Originally Posted by fudd View Post
    I bought a les Paul in 2015 and I hated them for years. But no guitar sounds as good as this thing. I have an EBMM EVH, kramers and a firebird and the LP blows them away. With the red EBMM I have a close 2nd.


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    I agree they sound great, but they just always felt awkward to me.

    My first electric was an Ebony Gibson SG, from PMI for 454.00!
    This was around 1984, and apparently no one wanted a Gibson SG Standard.

    After that i aquired a Japanese Fender Strat, which felt weird at first, but later
    became the only "feel" i liked.

    It was a white strat, and we put a SD in the bridge, for more beef.

    At that point i decided i only wanted to play strat shaped guitars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Kind of ironic Ed wants to make money off of a guitar he didn’t even like that much.
    Well, he liked it enough to for it to be used every day in '79. There are just as many photos of him playing this guitar as there are of him playing the red guitar on that tour. He might have used it even more than Frankenstein on that tour

    Plus, of course, because it was instantly iconic, and that look and color scheme has always been very popular with the fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CalFB View Post
    They've probably sold most of them already.
    Actually, he probably sold ALL of them already, to the dealers at NAMM. At least, that what happened with the Frankenstein replica & also the '78 white & black replica guitars. They ALL get sold, even before the first online complaint about the retail prices. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnbuckle View Post
    GP: Was that the guitar you took on the second tour?

    EVH: I used that one plus the original one from the first album for the first half of the tour, and then I ran into Floyd Rose, and he showed me his special bridge and nut for keeping a Strat in tune. I said, ďWhat the hell ó Iíll give it a try.Ē Iím up for anything. So I had Boogie Bodies make me a mahogany body thatís fit to my size, and I put the Rose device on it. The body is a Strat-style, but itís 2 1/2″ thick, which is thicker than a Les Paul. The Rose tailpiece gets a thin sound, and I thought a chunky piece of wood could make up for the thickness. It works a little bit. That guitar has a Gibson PAF and just one volume knob ó itís real simple.

    I interpret that as he had already put the Floyd in the Bee, even though it is not mentioned.
    How else would he come to the conclusion that "the Rose gets a thin sound", and needed to make a thicker mahogany body to compensate for it?
    It reads as if he is judging the Floyd on the 2.5Ē thick mahogany body as opposed to either the Frank or Bee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hausman View Post
    Actually, he probably sold ALL of them already, to the dealers at NAMM. At least, that what happened with the Frankenstein replica & also the '78 white & black replica guitars. They ALL get sold, even before the first online complaint about the retail prices. LOL.
    Just like Ludwig selling ALL of the limited run of Alex Van Halen Signature Supraphonic snares in 2016 IMMEDIATELY. The fastest selling signature drum in the storied history of Ludwig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi McFly View Post
    I agree that people would be more receptive of the gear if VH were actively touring and releasing music.
    Whenever Ed releases anything expensive, I just know they'll be some complaints. And I agree that if they released more music, there would be less complaints. But however active they could be, there would still be people complaining that certain things are being sold, or the prices of those things. That's the internet, I guess.

    Also, I find it kinda funny when someone says they are not going to buy something like this. Well, there better be that a lot of people who do not want to buy it, because there were only 50 made, worldwide!

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    Look, sorry Jape, but we are all chasing money. Anyone who says otherwise is a hypocrite. Some are just more successful at it.

    We dont, and never will, live in some ridiculous leftist fantasy utopia where everything is free and the world is full of rainbows and unicorns. Ask the people of Venezuela how much they are prospering under a Socialist regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hausman View Post
    Whenever Ed releases anything expensive, I just know they'll be some complaints. And I agree that if they released more music, there would be less complaints. But however active they could be, there would still be people complaining that certain things are being sold, or the prices of those things. That's the internet, I guess.

    Also, I find it kinda funny when someone says they are not going to buy something like this. Well, there better be that a lot of people who do not want to buy it, because there were only 50 made, worldwide!
    Ed lost the fire to make music many years ago. This is what he is now. Replica guitars from 30-40 years ago. These $20,000 packages heís been doing lately are just kinda gross. Just like any VH fan, I always wonder all the great stuff that never happened the last 20 years and into Edís twilight years.
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    Van Halen is a big part of my life. I have been utterly thrilled and terribly disappointed by this band and its individual members. Eddie changed the trajectory of rock guitar playing and he did it with a personality that we all found alluring. His demons overwhelmed him and he showed us the worst of him, whether he meant to or not. Still, I love him and I am grateful for his contributions to music and its effect on my life. If I had the means, I would buy two of everything Ed produced and sold. Sammy once sang, "To love somebody foolishly can happen once." I love Ed foolishly and I've never stopped. He'll keep disappointing me, but that's because of my own foolish expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Yes, PEAVEY WOLFGANGS.

    Guitars he hasn't had use for since, how long?

    Meanwhile, Gilmour & Clapton auctioned off signature/recording guitars for charity.
    And Ed could of sold them but he didnt... Thats the fucking point.
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    I still donít understand what the attraction is to spend that much money on a guitar that is nothing special.

    It wasnít Edís, it wasnít played by Ed, hell it wasnít even farted on by him. Itís just a replica built by a luthier who has Edís blessing. BFD. And they donít even have the original axe to look at in person to maybe catch more little idiosyncrasies with it or whatever. They have the same references as everyone else...pictures. Whatís the actual difference between these guitars and any of the ones from guys on here who build great replicas? Nothing.

    I wouldnít have a problem with the price tag if it was something actually rare and cool. But itís not. Even if I were a millionaire, itís still a ridiculous price for something that just isnít special. What people choose to spend their money on is of course their decision, Iím just discussing this guitar from a rational standpoint of real value as a fan.

    At least the Art Series Charvels were striped, signed, and played live by Ed. Those are actually cool. Those guitars were worth the price.

    Again I have no problem with Ed wanting to make money off of his creation, but at least put some effort in giving a true fan something cool for dropping $20k. You guys know full well there is nothing truly exclusive about these guitars.
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