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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I just really feel people aren’t happy with Ed the musician, so they are taking it out on Ed the guitar maker.

    But for me I’ve tried to like them and I just don’t. I even sat with a bunch of them at NAMM when I went in January trying to see if I could enjoy playing them and I just didn’t. They just don’t have the feel to me of a great instrument. And if I’m gonna spend that much money, I want to get great instrument.

    Again I know guys on here love them and just have far different opinions than me on them. They just don’t do it for me. But that’s on me.
    I thought the same thing about the first Peavey Wolfgang.

    I tried one when they first came out and I liked my EBMM better.

    I'm sure some of it was bias toward my EBMM that was my main axe and at the time I had a sunburst that was my backup.

    But I also think that the EBMM's weren't mass produced so the quality was better.

    I always felt Ed contradicted himself when he justified the move to Peavey because "kids were waiting six months to get my guitar." Well, I waited 8 months and I'm glad I did.

    If Ed just wanted a "batch of guitars that he wanted" and didn't care about anything else then that shouldn't have mattered. And then the dreaded "tone" knob showed up on the Peaveys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    I thought the same thing about the first Peavey Wolfgang.

    I tried one when they first came out and I liked my EBMM better.

    I'm sure some of it was bias toward my EBMM that was my main axe and at the time I had a sunburst that was my backup.

    But I also think that the EBMM's weren't mass produced so the quality was better.

    I always felt Ed contradicted himself when he justified the move to Peavey because "kids were waiting six months to get my guitar." Well, I waited 8 months and I'm glad I did.

    If Ed just wanted a "batch of guitars that he wanted" and didn't care about anything else then that shouldn't have mattered. And then the dreaded "tone" knob showed up on the Peaveys.
    I'm not a guitar.player, and I know it probably shouldnt matter, but man the EBMM is the ugliest body style of any guitars he played so that alone knocks it down to the bottom rung for me.

    Just too round and bloated looking. Of course, nothing is as fricking ugly as a Les Paul. I better duck the arrows coming my way from you guitar players.

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    My cousin is the guitar player and he likes the EVH Wolfgangs. He's always wanting to pull the trigger on a left handed one, but I dont know that he ever will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    I'm not a guitar.player, and I know it probably shouldnt matter, but man the EBMM is the ugliest body style of any guitars he played so that alone knocks it down to the bottom rung for me.

    Just too round and bloated looking. Of course, nothing is as fricking ugly as a Les Paul. I better duck the arrows coming my way from you guitar players.
    Yeah, well I don't really give a shit what it looks like. It sounds good and it plays good so that's what matters to me.
    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

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    The EBMM's were awesome. They were refined and classic. Remember that old Guitar One that said something like 'Old fans might miss the stripes, yet this is a gorgeous instrument. The feel of a Les Paul with the upper mid-range tone of a Tele...'?

    Gorgeous quilts, too! They looked and sounded awesome!
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    I agree that people would be more receptive of the gear if VH were actively touring and releasing music.

    I disagree that Ed didn't like the Bee. He got it towards the tail end of the '78 tour, liked it enough to photograph it for the VH2 album cover, brought it on the '79 tour, and it even made appearances on the '80 tour. I think Ed grew to dislike Charvel once they began selling striped guitars. Once that happened he began badmouthing the guitar and basically stopped playing it in public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I recall Ed saying the guitar always sounded brittle to him. Am I crazy? He said that right?
    You're not crazy! He did say brittle, not sure if he meant the Floyd Rose made it sound that way or not...


    GP: Did you make another guitar for your second album?

    EVH: I made the yellow-and-black Strat. It has an ash body by Charvel. It was my idea to have it rear-loaded so I wouldnít have to have a pickguard, and Charvel routed it for me. The pickup thatís on the photo is not really what I use ó I had just finished slapping it together and painting it when they shot the album cover, and just stuck some garbage pickup in it to look like a complete guitar. Then I took the pickup out of my first guitar and stuck it in there, but it didnít sound too good. I donít really go for DiMarzio pickups, because theyíre real distorted. I like a clean sound with sustain ó I hate the fuzz box, real raspy sound. So I put a PAF magnet in a DiMarzio pickup and rewound it by hand, which took a long lime. I actually ruined about three pickups, and by the fourth time it worked. I didnít count the windings ó I just did it by sight.

    GP: Was that the guitar you took on the second tour?

    EVH: I used that one plus the original one from the first album for the first half of the tour, and then I ran into Floyd Rose, and he showed me his special bridge and nut for keeping a Strat in tune. I said, ďWhat the hell ó Iíll give it a try.Ē Iím up for anything. So I had Boogie Bodies make me a mahogany body thatís fit to my size, and I put the Rose device on it. The body is a Strat-style, but itís 2 1/2″ thick, which is thicker than a Les Paul. The Rose tailpiece gets a thin sound, and I thought a chunky piece of wood could make up for the thickness. It works a little bit. That guitar has a Gibson PAF and just one volume knob ó itís real simple.

    GP: What is your overall opinion of Floydís vibrato device?

    EVH: I like it and I donít. For one, on my guitar it sounds real brittle-bright
    , and I have to do some heavy equalization to get my tone. Thatís why I donít like to use it in the studio. We just go in there and play live, and I depend on making my guitar sound good out of the amp instead of fixing it in the mix. Number two, if you pop a string, you canít even one-note your way through because the whole guitar goes out of tune. Sometimes Iíll hit a chord and tune really quickly. With this device you canít ó you have to unclamp it. On top of that, sometimes when I jump off the drum riser the neck shifts just a hair, and then I canít tune it. But it has advantages: When youíre using the bar, it will not go out of tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James in New York View Post
    GP: What is your overall opinion of Floyd’s vibrato device?

    EVH: I like it and I don’t. For one, on my guitar it sounds real brittle-bright
    , and I have to do some heavy equalization to get my tone. That’s why I don’t like to use it in the studio. We just go in there and play live, and I depend on making my guitar sound good out of the amp instead of fixing it in the mix. Number two, if you pop a string, you can’t even one-note your way through because the whole guitar goes out of tune. Sometimes I’ll hit a chord and tune really quickly. With this device you can’t — you have to unclamp it. On top of that, sometimes when I jump off the drum riser the neck shifts just a hair, and then I can’t tune it. But it has advantages: When you’re using the bar, it will not go out of tune.
    In context this seems to be about the prototype Floyds, not the Bee specifically. It doesn't even sound like he had put a Floyd on the Bee at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejmaes67 View Post
    He liked it so much he buried it in the ground
    Yep. With someone he honestly barely knew. It couldnít have meant that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNGLE DRUMMER View Post
    I'm not a guitar.player, and I know it probably shouldnt matter, but man the EBMM is the ugliest body style of any guitars he played so that alone knocks it down to the bottom rung for me.

    Just too round and bloated looking. Of course, nothing is as fricking ugly as a Les Paul. I better duck the arrows coming my way from you guitar players.
    Completely agree.

    Which is why i'm glad he's doing the EVH in a more compact, strat style.

    Could never understand the attraction to those EBMM, round bodies.
    I guess the Peavey was slightly less pronounced, but still too round.
    Never liked the amber quilts, or whatever they were called, either.
    Gimme a straight up solid color, but that's just me.

    And, yeah, Les Paul's are iconic, but the SG was the much better alternative:

    Lighter, cooler looking with horns, high fret access, ballsy tone, great necks...

    I never understood someone playing a Les Paul, with all it's cumbersome weight
    and awkward fret access.

    Just play an SG!
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    The Bee was the one they copied, and that's when Ed said: I hate this damn guitar.

    I remember the guitar player in Rick James' band, playing one on "Solid Gold."

    I think he felt fucked over by Charvel (or Grover, as i think he took over at that point),
    and him bad mouthing the axe, was him giving them the middle finger:

    I hate this guitar, don't buy it.

    But the Bee was always my personal fave, ever since i first saw it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie5150 View Post
    Didn't Ed GIVE AWAY 75 PV Wolfgangs a few years ago.... FOR FREE
    Yes, PEAVEY WOLFGANGS.

    Guitars he hasn't had use for since, how long?

    Meanwhile, Gilmour & Clapton auctioned off signature/recording guitars for charity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Completely agree.

    Which is why i'm glad he's doing the EVH in a more compact, strat style.

    Could never understand the attraction to those EBMM, round bodies.
    I guess the Peavey was slightly less pronounced, but still too round.
    Never liked the amber quilts, or whatever they were called, either.
    Gimme a straight up solid color, but that's just me.

    And, yeah, Les Paul's are iconic, but the SG was the much better alternative:

    Lighter, cooler looking with horns, high fret access, ballsy tone, great necks...

    I never understood someone playing a Les Paul, with all it's cumbersome weight
    and awkward fret access.

    Just play an SG!
    Harder to find a decent SG, in my experience. Les Pauls seem to be more consistent players. Not as ergonomic, that's for sure.

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    Capitalism sometimes means seeing the opening, and taking advantage or exploiting.
    It is what it is.

    Just because some loon is gonna blow 20 grand on a guitar that costs a fraction of that,
    doesn't mean i'm gonna cheerlead Ed & say: Good on you, Ed! Next time charge double, why not?
    One guy might pay it.

    He can do what he wants, and will, but he's still just chasing the money, like any CEO
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