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    Default No sleep till Brooklyn...or Boston

    I've been wracked with severe insomnia, since the end of June.

    Before that, i'd have one sleepless night here & there, then maybe once
    a week, then three times & now every night.

    I have no idea what triggered this, as sleep was always there and i enjoyed
    it, but took it for granted.

    But now it's turned into a helpless feeling, because there's a vicious cycle
    of sleep anxiety which makes the problem almost impossible to overcome.

    I finally went to the doctor on Monday, first time in ages, and they did a bunch
    of tests and took a bunch of blood, but all my counts were way more normal than
    i expected (i have a fairly poor diet, too much soda, etc.)

    They gave me Ambien, but i'm so anti drug, i'm afraid to take it.
    My fear is not getting hooked, but psychologically believing i will always need
    it to sleep.

    But i may have no choice.

    Melatonin had no effect.

    But i feel this helpless cloud of depression beginning to sink in.
    The lack of sleep has killed my focus & appetite.

    But i have nervous energy abounds, and don't feel super tired, which is
    disconcerting.

    I quit coffee & soda about one week ago.
    It gave me headaches, but those passed.

    Anyone else deal with this?

    I'm gonna be 48 soon, and have anxiety, but never on meds for it.
    I could always function & control it, but maybe this is it's new form.
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    Do you workout? If not, maybe give that a try. It definitely helps to improve sleep patterns.
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    You donít need synthetics like ambien.

    CBD oil with 3:1 THC. A dropper under the tongue 1/2 hour before bed. Will put you to sleep with ease. And will help exponentially with anxiety.

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    I don't really have problems with sleeping, but I have RA in my hands pretty bad. I use a CBD balm. Seems to help, but it's pretty greasy.

    What does 3:1 THC mean VS?

    We need a dedicated thread for all things CBD. And yes, I know about OLO's thread. Not the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    Do you workout? If not, maybe give that a try. It definitely helps to improve sleep patterns.
    I always do pushups, situps, lots of walking.

    They told me to do this routine in the morning instead of night.
    I do lots of reps, but moreso because i don't hit the Gym.

    The weird thing is the insomnia has made me more anxious, and my pushups
    spiked from 35 to 50, for the first rep.
    Three days in a row.
    And i can go higher on the one's after each rest.

    I'm not a jacked dude at all, but it was weird to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    You don’t need synthetics like ambien.

    CBD oil with 3:1 THC. A dropper under the tongue 1/2 hour before bed. Will put you to sleep with ease. And will help exponentially with anxiety.
    Thanks man, i will try.

    It's like i feel the sleep coming, then something internally, blocks it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Thanks man, i will try.

    It's like i feel the sleep coming, then something internally, blocks it.
    Been there dude. Sucks. Lack of sleep will contribute to anxiety and vice versa. It's a vicious circle.

    Please try the CBD. Trust me. It works, and it's organic, and you can't get addicted to it. You can also PRN it for anxiety during the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Been there dude. Sucks. Lack of sleep will contribute to anxiety and vice versa. It's a vicious circle.

    Please try the CBD. Trust me. It works, and it's organic, and you can't get addicted to it. You can also PRN it for anxiety during the day.
    Yeah, i can't believe i haven't just completely crashed.

    I don't drink (only a couple beers now & again, if i'm out), the guy weighed me &
    i'm 164 lbs at 5'10", so not overweight.
    I don't do drugs, no medications except the occasional asthma inhaler.

    My only vice was caffeine & soda, which i stopped about one week ago.
    Plus i ate like a teenager, which is why i was surprised my thyroid, blood levels &
    whatever else, were all normal (or unremarkable as Doctor's say).

    Maybe this is like the onset of "male menopause."

    I'm sure it's anxiety that i don't even know is there.
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    I found that going to sleep with the TV on helped me occupy my lizard brain and let me go to sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgia Act View Post
    I don't really have problems with sleeping, but I have RA in my hands pretty bad. I use a CBD balm. Seems to help, but it's pretty greasy.

    What does 3:1 THC mean VS?

    We need a dedicated thread for all things CBD. And yes, I know about OLO's thread. Not the same thing.
    There are varying mix ratios of CBD oil depending on what youíre trying to achieve.

    A 3:1 cbd/thc ratio means thereís three parts of cannabinol extract to 1 part of THC (tetrahydrocannabinol, the stuff in weed that gets you high). Itís a moderate mix, one thatís fairly designed for sleep aid. The more THC in a mix, the more effective the oil tends to be. Cancer patients get higher ratios of CBD/THC, like a 1:1 ratio, folks who take it for preventive proactive health boosters will use a 15:1 or 20:1 ratio.

    Since Jape hasnít slept in a month, I suggested a higher ratio to start just so he can crash. After he rests for a week, he could dial it back to lower THC ratios if he likes.

    Brett ainít sleeping either, I think heís still experimenting with edibles, but Iíve tend to found CBD oils the most effective for sleep.

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    Quick reminder Jape, not sure what you do for a living, but CBD is still considered a no-no in a couple states and Federally, at least the last time I checked.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    That will all change soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    That will all change soon enough.
    True, but until the Feds do change it, that's immediately termination from some jobs.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Quick reminder Jape, not sure what you do for a living, but CBD is still considered a no-no in a couple states and Federally, at least the last time I checked.
    As a food additive it is illegal and any product making a medicinal claim. Otherwise it is legal federally. Heck our skin care line w CBD we sell in sachs, bloomies, Barneys, etc.... so yes you can distribute nationally. That said, most products advertising CBD do not actually have CBD in it. Check lab testing.

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