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    He died from hanging. But who did the hanging??
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    It's being reported that certain guards only on his block requested overtime specifically for the night shift Epstein died.

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    There should be immediate video of exactly what happened in his cell..it's not hard to pull up
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.B. View Post
    It's being reported that certain guards only on his block requested overtime specifically for the night shift Epstein died.
    One of them may have requested it, though I haven’t seen that; the other guard was forced to do so.

    The prison is operating with fewer than 70% of the staff it needs, so most guards have mandatory overtime and 60-70 hour work weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    One of them may have requested it, though I haven’t seen that; the other guard was forced to do so.

    The prison is operating with fewer than 70% of the staff it needs, so most guards have mandatory overtime and 60-70 hour work weeks.


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    PBS Newshour didn't talk about suicide watch, but put up a graphic at the end of the segment on where the Epstein case and would go now, with the statement: The facility overcrowded and under staffed, to explain away any shortcomings. IOW, no conspiracy here... just what you might expect when a facility is over crowded and understaffed.
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    He was sunk. Of course it benefitted other people for him to die, but it definitely benefitted him the most. I think he did it himself, and the guards didn't care one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    PBS Newshour didn't talk about suicide watch, but put up a graphic at the end of the segment on where the Epstein case and would go now, with the statement: The facility overcrowded and under staffed, to explain away any shortcomings. IOW, no conspiracy here... just what you might expect when a facility is over crowded and understaffed.
    It is. This happens way more than we should be comfortable with. Just not usually to White billionaires.

    This reminds me of the show of force when Roger Stone got arrested. All of a sudden what happens to regular old people way too often happened to a rich White guy connected to Trump. People paid attention but drew the wrong conclusion.

    There will be an investigation. And there should be. If it was foul play, we will see. If not, then what happens way too often—because we’ve allowed prisons to become cesspools and cheer on instead of condemn terrible humans like Joe Arpaio—now happened to a rich White guy. I’m guessing the wrong conclusions will be drawn again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rchop84 View Post
    There should be immediate video of exactly what happened in his cell..it's not hard to pull up
    Eww, do they have video of every cell in the prison, or every cell on suicide watch? Didn't know that.

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    I still call BS. That jail can have one guard assigned to it. If a prisoner recently tried to commit suicide, I am sure there is a protocol to remove any object in their room that could help assist with another suicide. Rope? Remove it. Razor blades? remove it. Sheets? remove it. I would have to think that across the country there are thousands of prisoners on a suicide watch. I would assume that the vast majority of them after an attempted suicide are not successful weeks after it.

    This isn't John Doe from Queens who has a B&E. This is a very high profile guy. Somebody I am quite sure the FBI, DOJ, etc are all interested in. I am quite sure daily they are asking the facility for reports on him. What is he doing? What is he saying? I am sure they are talking to him daily. If the Admin of the jail says "man we are really overstaffed....we have guys working 70 hour weeks" I am sure the FBI or somebody would have taken care of it by either transferring him or simply trying to assist.

    Now not saying Hillary walked in there with a rope from Home Depot. Not saying she or the Clintons are involved. However somebody powerful ensured that this would happen. Heck they could have paid the guards to string him up. Give a guard a suitcase of money. How hard is that to do? They won't find anything in the investigation either. It will simply be pushed around a bit and then it will be forgotten

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    Someone will go to jail another lower down the line player. It's like when they tried to make it look like Maddoff caused the great recession all by himself.


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    Default US v. Jeffrey Epstein ~ 19 Cr. 490 (RMB) July 8, 2019

    Ariel Castro committed suicide after being taken off suicide watch, too. (Whitey Bukger was stabbed due to short staffing.) Even so, 1/3 of jail suicides happen while on watch, apparently.

    But there’s a reason you don’t stay on watch in perpetuity. It makes the situation worse, psychologically.

    In this case he had someone forced to work a 60-70 hour week supposed to check on him and a substitute who wasn’t a guard who very likely didn’t want to be there. It could’ve been anyone, even a teacher, whose contract stipulates subbing if necessary.

    If we’re going to imprison the most people, per capita, then staff prisons a third below what they should be, what kind of results are we expecting?


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    Yeah but an x president didn't fly on any of those guys planes to his sex slave island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Yeah but an x president didn't fly on any of those guys planes to his sex slave island.

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    It's all just way, way too convenient. All the way down to the fact that his cellmate was transferred not too long before the "suicide," and was not replaced. We'll probably never know the truth.

    This is a good run down of most that has been reported:

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...de-report.html
    blah blah blah Devin Townsend blah blah blah

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