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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRvh1 View Post
    You don't think there are, whereas my ears know there are... Different opinions, and all cool. I'd bet that Eddie and Alex themselves would agree with me.
    I do not think Eddie or Alex would agree that MOAM or INO would rank in the same league as IASR and Romeo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    It's funny, I really can't stand EVH's ballads for the most part, but I do dig FSG, always have. I like Ed's rhythm work in it, plus the solo is straight up.

    APB is awesome.
    APB is so cool. Edís tone on that is such a perfect fit. Canít get into FSG though, but the solo is a good groove. But an EVH solo is like pizza, some are better than others, but Iíll always eat it up


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    APB is so cool. Ed’s tone on that is such a perfect fit. Can’t get into FSG though, but the solo is a good groove. But an EVH solo is like pizza, some are better than others, but I’ll always eat it up


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    Ed is KILLING the tone on APB. It just makes me pine for more bluesy VH over the years. Lots of guys are more hair metal / heavy metal oriented when it comes to mixing their VH, some guys even go to the extreme pseudo glam fringe on the Sam Halen side I guess, but me, I've always been a bluesman more than a metal guy, and it's probably why I focus on Ed's rhythm playing more than his showboating, 'cause I'm of the op that Ed's the finest rhythm player I've ever heard, and IMO he shines most brightly when he's emoting blues-based riffs rather than flashy gimmicks.

    I'd have gobbled up a lot more tunes like Secrets, PCTS, CTBM, and APB given a choice over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Ed is KILLING the tone on APB. It just makes me pine for more bluesy VH over the years. Lots of guys are more hair metal / heavy metal oriented when it comes to mixing their VH, some guys even go to the extreme pseudo glam fringe on the Sam Halen side I guess, but me, I've always been a bluesman more than a metal guy, and it's probably why I focus on Ed's rhythm playing more than his showboating, 'cause I'm of the op that Ed's the finest rhythm player I've ever heard, and IMO he shines most brightly when he's emoting blues-based riffs rather than flashy gimmicks.

    I'd have gobbled up a lot more tunes like Secrets, PCTS, CTBM, and APB given a choice over the years.
    Iím with you there, Ed has some great blues playing chops and itís why you have to see him live when they do breakdowns and all of a sudden bust into crossroads
    It sounds stupid, but I would have given anything to see Ed show up in something like the Blues Brothers musicians montage with the likes of BB King and Clapton etc, just imagine that jam session


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    If OU812 sounded like FUCK it would really crush it. Still better from a song standpoint


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    I’m with you there, Ed has some great blues playing chops and it’s why you have to see him live when they do breakdowns and all of a sudden bust into crossroads
    It sounds stupid, but I would have given anything to see Ed show up in something like the Blues Brothers musicians montage with the likes of BB King and Clapton etc, just imagine that jam session


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    Sounds like a fuckin' dream, not stupid. I'd have paid BIG dough to see Ed jam with BB or Clapton or Buddy Guy or T Bone Burnett, or Bonamassa.

    I always figure TFB to be kinda a Van Halenized speedball of a blues fusion track, and not just 'cuz Dave's slinging harp on it, but 'cause Ed's slurpy tone on it is so fat. DD and WACF clearly have the most bluesy tones of all ten of the VH records, prob why they're my second and third fave VH albums.

    Haha. I slag the UsFest a lot, 'cause it was a disappointing day toward the tail end of it. But I do remember TFB, and Ed and Al and Mike were killing it.

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    Def OU812 over FUCK.

    OU812 still had a whiff of the old EVH on things like AFU & Black and Blue.

    I was listening to Black & Blue, recently.
    The guitar playing is so ratty and GOOD!
    I just love the greasy feel of it, the sort of DDL like "behind the beat" swagger.
    And i love that little droning melody he does before, Don't draw the line.

    I dig the solo, too.
    Sounds like he's semi drunk or baked, and just throwing it all out there.
    Super loose, just like the outro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by japeape View Post
    Def OU812 over FUCK.

    OU812 still had a whiff of the old EVH on things like AFU & Black and Blue.

    I was listening to Black & Blue, recently.
    The guitar playing is so ratty and GOOD!
    I just love the greasy feel of it, the sort of DDL like "behind the beat" swagger.
    And i love that little droning melody he does before, Don't draw the line.

    I dig the solo, too.
    Sounds like he's semi drunk or baked, and just throwing it all out there.
    Super loose, just like the outro.
    Good call on the BAB and DDL comparison. A couple of great tunes with such cool laid back grooves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    FUCK stomps all over OU812 for this fan.

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    Yep, OU812 I liked when it came out, probably because it was "the new VH record" but it has not stood the test of time for me. A few songs, but that's it.

    F.U.C.K is much better. Less filler. A few catchy tunes for the radio, and some "deep cut" type of stuff like Pleasure Dome.

    About the only song I never cared for a whole lot was Man on a Mission.

    But song for song, it blows OU812 out of the water for me. Probably doesn't help matters that OU812 sounds like absolute garbage, acoustically.
    That, and OU812 just didn't rock enough. It's okay, and they had a lot of radio hits the ladies liked, but there's better songs on F.U.C.K., that rock. Even the popular songs on that album rock more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post
    Yep, OU812 I liked when it came out, probably because it was "the new VH record" but it has not stood the test of time for me. A few songs, but that's it.

    F.U.C.K is much better. Less filler. A few catchy tunes for the radio, and some "deep cut" type of stuff like Pleasure Dome.

    About the only song I never cared for a whole lot was Man on a Mission.

    But song for song, it blows OU812 out of the water for me. Probably doesn't help matters that OU812 sounds like absolute garbage, acoustically.
    That, and OU812 just didn't rock enough. It's okay, and they had a lot of radio hits the ladies liked, but there's better songs on F.U.C.K., that rock. Even the popular songs on that album rock more.
    I think F.U.C.K. is basically half killer and half filler. The songwriting started to become bloated and self-indulgent. That trend continued on Balance and went full throttle on VH III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean Streets View Post
    Man you guys with the cold start Sam v Dave

    How about this, if Eddie thinks those songs from Fuck or OU812 are so great, how come he never plays them

    And if EWS and RD were the anthems whoís balls couldnít be licked, why were they absent from being played for 15 years
    Simple answers:

    1. Sam wouldn't sing 'em.
    2. Dave won't sing 'em.

    And the rest of your post is spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    The Full Bug is flat out awesome.
    It is awesome, but I'm one of those weird VH fans that thinks they have so many songs so much better. It's easily my least favorite of the double time boogie shuffles from the Dave era.

    And on DD, I like Little Guitars, Hang Em High, Secrets, and WHATGTG more than Bug.

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    This oughta give you your Sunday morning serotonin splash, Downey.

    These are the core essence songs that make VH all that it's supposed to be.


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    OF


    LUTS
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    Romeo
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    IASR/Growth


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    CW
    BnB


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    7th Seal
    Aftershock
    DTM
    Crossing Over


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    That's the size of it.

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