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    I've never met Ed, but anyone that has, says that he is very humble regarding his work.

    I wonder if his sense of humility causes for him to undervalue his work; certainly, this would lead him to think that his fans "take Van Halen more seriously than he does."

    His humility would likewise cause him to think that we're clinging to the band to preserve our youth.

    With that as a backdrop, I wonder what influence my fellow Linkers have, on the direction that the band takes?

    At first glance, everyone's answer would be "none."

    However, Roth is clearly fried, and as a result the band's output has dwindled to nothing. The only reason why Roth is in the band, is because Ed thinks that the fans won't tolerate his replacement.

    There's a part of me that can't help but feel, if we got together in support of a new direction for the band, it might give them the courage to move in a different direction.

    "Nah dude; Ed's in semi retirement, enjoying life."

    If you really believe that, consider: what if the band's relationship with Sam never dwindled? Given Sam's propensity to put himself out there, do you really think that Ed would've put himself in semi retirement with Sam fronting the band? Perhaps they would've slowed down, but do you not think that they'd have continued putting our new material?

    Of course they would have.

    The real issue here, is their aversion to working with Roth. They can't work with him, so they don't. And they only employ Roth, because they see him as having no substitute with the fans.

    That's where we come in
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    We have 0.00% impact on Van Halen.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

    Emperor Brett - "I can't believe you guys are analyzing song-by-song Van Halen III? What next, analyzing the script of Stroker Ace looking for some shred of Citizen Kane?"

    David Lee Roth did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    The only reason why Roth is in the band, is because Ed thinks that the fans won't tolerate his replacement.
    He's 'in' the 'band' because Ed is done being creative and Roth is available because he sucks and Ed knows he'll help drain your wallets when necessary.
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
    Michael did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Q: who was the biggest douche that you have worked with?

    A: Eddie Van Halen hands down he threatened all the stage hands that if we wernt all pushed to the side when he got off stage that he would "bash our faces in"

    Now the new David-Lee-Roth-Van Halen album, “Tokyo Dome In Concert,” is available for purchase, and it’s super, super, super, super, super, super, crazy bad. - Doug Elfman

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    I dunno...I can't help but feel that the band is averse to trying different things, because they think that it wouldn't be received.
    "If only Eddie, Alex and Wolfgang had as much enthusiasm about Van Halen as Dave, Sammy and Mike do … " - I Coulda Hada VH

    "I don't think he owes us, and I think few if any do. What we would like is for him to release music, since he is our favorite musician. It's a wish and a hope, not a critique." - Dave's Dreidel

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    Not an ounce of influence at all when it comes to VHL and VH.

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    I don’t think the words “new music” are tolerated at camp VH.


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    It was definitely no coincidence that the following songs were played on the 2015 tour:

    Feel Your Love Tonight
    Light Up The Sky
    Women In Love
    In A Simple Rhyme
    Dirty Movies
    Drop Dead Legs

    Thank you, Wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Halen View Post
    Not an ounce of influence at all when it comes to VHL and VH.

    HH<----- I can guarantee you the, "Band" knows about this place. 100%--------
    No doubt.

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    I don’t think the words “new music” are tolerated at camp VH.

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    He's 'in' the 'band' because Ed is done being creative and Roth is available because he sucks and Ed knows he'll help drain your wallets when necessary.
    I am not pointing fingers at anyone in saying this, but has the general consensus on this board *ever* encouraged the band to strive in a different direction?

    If the attitude of fans towards most things is "hell no," is it any wonder that the band hasn't tried anything else?

    Again...not pointing fingers, but exploring the "cause and effect" relationship here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    We have 0.00% impact on Van Halen.
    That seems like the appropriate number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    but has the general consensus on this board *ever* encouraged the band to strive in a different direction?
    0.00% means it doesn't matter.
    Sammy did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
    Michael did the impossible. He made Van Halen better. Deal with it.
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    Now the new David-Lee-Roth-Van Halen album, “Tokyo Dome In Concert,” is available for purchase, and it’s super, super, super, super, super, super, crazy bad. - Doug Elfman

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    I am not pointing fingers at anyone in saying this, but has the general consensus on this board *ever* encouraged the band to strive in a different direction?
    In order for that to be a possibility, the band would have to acknowledge the board. I think this board has begged for new music — in any form — to the point that it’s become pointless to continue asking.

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    The band has sold a gazillion albums and I'd guess there are fewer than 20 people who really post here regularly. The influence is less than zero, if that high...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDL View Post
    No doubt.





    I am not pointing fingers at anyone in saying this, but has the general consensus on this board *ever* encouraged the band to strive in a different direction?

    If the attitude of fans towards most things is "hell no," is it any wonder that the band hasn't tried anything else?

    Again...not pointing fingers, but exploring the "cause and effect" relationship here.
    Zero influence from the internet. If this board were hundred percent positive, it would make no difference to the decision maker.

    However, Wolfie did mine threads for deep cut choices, that much is fairly certain.

    The band doesn't try new things because of the mainstream reception of VH3 and the fact that they've pigeonholed themselves into a nostalgia act. Not because of a few dozen diehards on a fan site.

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