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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    If we asked the general public this question AC/DC would win by landslide.

    The only album that could hold its own would be 1984.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    Yeah I can’t think of many.

    Metallica “Black” maybe.
    Nah. Not Metallica nor Taylor Swift nor Green Day or virtually anyone else have made albums as legendary as Back in Black. Itís right up there cross generationally with Thriller or Zep IV or Sgt Pepperís or Eagles Greatest Hits or Dark Side of the Moon. Itís not simply units moved or mass popularity. Only a handful of rock albums are true legend for all creeds and cultures. Maybe 6 or 10 at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Nah. Not Metallica nor Taylor Swift nor Green Day or virtually anyone else have made albums as legendary as Back in Black. It’s right up there cross generationally with Thriller or Zep IV or Sgt Pepper’s or Eagles Greatest Hits or Dark Side of the Moon. It’s not simply units moved or mass popularity. Only a handful of rock albums are true legend for all creeds and cultures. Maybe 6 or 10 at best.
    Yes, but to be honest, time has told us how "timeless" BIB is. There were periods when AC/DC wasn't as revered as it is now. And there were time periods when VH was held in better regards than it is now. The actions of both bands, how they've treated their own legacy, has influenced the way we view those records. BIB was always a good record. But I remember listening to it in the 80s and it was still considered one good record among many. With the passing of time we've realized how important that record was and still is. If Van Halen hadn't worked so hard to destroy their own legacy, I could very well imagine an alternate 2019 where people would speak with similar reverence of Fair Warning or 1984. Alas, it wasn't meant to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Nah. Not Metallica nor Taylor Swift nor Green Day or virtually anyone else have made albums as legendary as Back in Black. It’s right up there cross generationally with Thriller or Zep IV or Sgt Pepper’s or Eagles Greatest Hits or Dark Side of the Moon. It’s not simply units moved or mass popularity. Only a handful of rock albums are true legend for all creeds and cultures. Maybe 6 or 10 at best.
    Interesting question, really. Which rock albums are "perfect"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Yes, but to be honest, time has told us how "timeless" BIB is. There were periods when AC/DC wasn't as revered as it is now. And there were time periods when VH was held in better regards than it is now. The actions of both bands, how they've treated their own legacy, has influenced the way we view those records. BIB was always a good record. But I remember listening to it in the 80s and it was still considered one good record among many. With the passing of time we've realized how important that record was and still is. If Van Halen hadn't worked so hard to destroy their own legacy, I could very well imagine an alternate 2019 where people would speak with similar reverence of Fair Warning or 1984. Alas, it wasn't meant to be.
    Iím not certain VH wouldíve had a timeless record. AC/DC has had extended periods of inactivity. But even if VH had stayed active and in the public eye, almost all their records are either too diehard fringe underground or too period dated...esp 84 and all the Sammy albums. The only record that had a chance of mainstream appeal longevity that would hold up in tone and pop culture resonance would be the debut. And it does, to a certain extent, albeit a fraction of Back in Blackís longevity.

    AC/DC the band def hasnít had nearly as much legs as their flashpoint album. Honestly, much like GNR rides a strange worldwide appeal wave on the basis of one single album, AFD, AC/DC rides the appeal of only two records out of 17, plus one favorite sports event track.

    Something about BIBís basic grass roots crunch, its nasty yet fun party tone, sex and booze and adrenaline, just resonates for everyone, grandmas to toddlers. Itís remarkable, really, how musically simple of an album it is, yet so powerful at the same time.

    I actually find the longevity of Eagles Greatest Hits and Dark Side of the Moon far more puzzling. Lol, I fuckiní canít stand Floyd.

    BIB is an easy record to love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HippieLettuce View Post
    Interesting question, really. Which rock albums are "perfect"?
    Led Zeppelin IV comes to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippieLettuce View Post
    Interesting question, really. Which rock albums are "perfect"?
    BIB is probably one of them. The subjectivity factor always plays when it comes to ranking, but based on cross generational longevity and the general consensus of hard rock royalty, the Beatles seem to have at least a couple, ditto Zeppelin. A lot of folks think U2ís Joshua Tree is a Ďperfectí album.

    As the remaining diehards, we all know that Fair Warning is a perfect album, and the debut as well, but worldwide culture probably isnít going to validate that.

    GNRís AFD gotta be close, I guess. The Policeís Synchronicity maybe.

    Itís a personal preference no doubt, but Yesí 90125 is near a perfect record as any Iíd wager. Might be a little 80s dated tho.

    Zep IV and Physical Graffiti. Beatlesí White Album. Stonesí Exile on Main Street.
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    I'd throw Who's Next and Moving Pictures in there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    BIB is probably one of them. The subjectivity factor always plays when it comes to ranking, but based on cross generational longevity and the general consensus of hard rock royalty, the Beatles seem to have at least a couple, ditto Zeppelin. A lot of folks think U2’s Joshua Tree is a ‘perfect’ album.

    As the remaining diehards, we all know that Fair Warning is a perfect album, and the debut as well, but worldwide culture probably isn’t going to validate that.

    GNR’s AFD gotta be close, I guess. The Police’s Synchronicity maybe.

    It’s a personal preference no doubt, but Yes’ 90125 is near a perfect record as any I’d wager. Might be a little 80s dated tho.

    Zep IV and Physical Graffiti. Beatles’ White Album. Stones’ Exile on Main Street.
    Physical Graffiti (my personal favorite from LZ) and The White Album would have each made perfect single albums. I love them both, but they do each contain some filler.
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    This just popped up on my homepage …

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/gram...anntp#image=26
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippieLettuce View Post
    I'd throw Who's Next and Moving Pictures in there as well.
    I agree.

    Probably gotta consider Paranoid and Toys in the Attic/Rocks while we're at it.
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    95.5 KLOS in Los Angeles had their listeners vote for their all-time favorite albums and released the results on Labor Day Weekend in 1980. Here was the top 10:

    (1) Who's Next (The Who)
    (2) The Wall (Pink Floyd)
    (3) Physical Graffiti (Led Zeppelin)
    (4) Van Halen (Van Halen)
    (5) Dark Side Of The Moon (Pink Floyd)
    (6) Led Zeppelin IV (Led Zeppelin)
    (7) Abbey Road (The Beatles)
    (8) Rumours (Fleetwood Mac)
    (9) Breakfast In America (Supertramp)
    (10) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (The Beatles)

    Women And Children First was #133 and Back In Black was #189. FTR, Back In Black was released on 7/25/80, a mere 5 weeks before this list was compiled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    95.5 KLOS in Los Angeles had their listeners vote for their all-time favorite albums and released the results on Labor Day Weekend in 1980. Here was the top 10:

    (1) Who's Next (The Who)
    (2) The Wall (Pink Floyd)
    (3) Physical Graffiti (Led Zeppelin)
    (4) Van Halen (Van Halen)
    (5) Dark Side Of The Moon (Pink Floyd)
    (6) Led Zeppelin IV (Led Zeppelin)
    (7) Abbey Road (The Beatles)
    (8) Rumours (Fleetwood Mac)
    (9) Breakfast In America (Supertramp)
    (10) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (The Beatles)

    Women And Children First was #133 and Back In Black was #189. FTR, Back In Black was released on 7/25/80, a mere 5 weeks before this list was compiled.

    Take your meds, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    Take your meds, please.
    You are like Pavlov's dog with that line.
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