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    I wanted him - still want him - in Boston.

    As for where he goes - if he wants rings, he needs to go to good ownership. It's that simple. Generally, good ownership gets good management, who get good coaches, who get the most out of their players. Even WITH good ownership it's damn hard to win a ring, but without it...

    The Knicks will be losers as long as Dolan owns them. I don't care who they get. KD is not going to change their fortunes. Lebron is about the only player in the league who can - possibly - do that. We'll see in LA, jury is still out on their management since Dr. Buss passed.

    From a team perspective, to me there are very few franchise changers out there. KD is probably one. I think Anthony Davis is one. I think the Greek Freak might get there. There's someone else I'm blanking on right now. Obviously Lebron is the big one. I'm not sure who else, honestly. If you can't get one of those, you need a few of the next tier, the Kawhi/Kyrie/Curry type. There are a bunch of those guys, where if you have other pieces, maybe put you over the top. Porzingas maybe.

    But if you don't have good ownership, forget about it. I'll say it again - absent Lebron, the Knicks ain't winning shit with Dolan in charge. He'd fuck up KD for sure.
    They'd fuck up lebron. Kd and lebron they'd find a way to fuck up.

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    Lebron MIGHT be bigger than Dolan, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrk5150 View Post
    From a team perspective, to me there are very few franchise changers out there. KD is probably one. I think Anthony Davis is one. I think the Greek Freak might get there. There's someone else I'm blanking on right now. Obviously Lebron is the big one. I'm not sure who else, honestly. If you can't get one of those, you need a few of the next tier, the Kawhi/Kyrie/Curry type. There are a bunch of those guys, where if you have other pieces, maybe put you over the top. Porzingas maybe.
    DAMN...... No Respect for Curry. He is above AD, Kawhi and Kyrie. 99% of the people in NORCAL would take him over KD. The Warriors are Curry's team.

    Curry is almost in his own unique tier. Below LBJ and KD. Above AD, Kawhi, Kyrie, Porzingas & Giannis.

    Curry is going to finish as the Greatest 3 pointer shooter in League history. He also may finish as the greatest Free Throw shooter as well. 2 time MVP. 3 time NBA Champ and counting.

    Guaranteed Hall of Famer.
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    I don’t agree that he’s a tier above those other guys. He might be at the top of that list, he might not. He’s a great player, so are those guys.

    And of course the home town fans are going to have a biased opinion. Boston fans would have taken Pierce above a ton of guys out there who were at or even above his level. Including KG. I expect that kind of loyalty for a guy who’s been there and accomplished a lot. And who is a HOF’er. So are the other guys in that tier.

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    Curry is not a franchise-changing player. He just isn’t. I mean seriously apart from Lebron who really is? KD? Yeah. Anthony Davis? Yeah I think so. Who else? To me that’s it. Maybe Giannis. Maybe Kawhi, but not to Lebron-KD level.

    Curry’s stats are obviously awesome but that doesn’t make him a guy who is going to change the fortunes of your franchise all by himself. If you put Curry on the Cavs they’re still a shitty team.
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