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    My god, Dave sounds fantastic in 2007!

    He's the strong link in this vid, still singing like a champ, even with everyone out of tune.
    You watch this video, not only does he sound great, he's running through the tune like a professional.

    I remember people saying in 2007, Well, Dave can't sing, so we'll see how that goes...

    He sounds fucking great.
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    Ed definitely should have adjusted or ad-libbed.

    Just play something to pitch, instead of knowing you're out of tune, and
    continuing to play it out of tune.

    Move it up a whole step, or find the key, and ad lib over the keyboards.
    The keys are carrying the melody anyway, just find the key instead of
    playing to the record.
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    I remember seeing this and thinking it was really unprofessional and stubborn of Ed to continue playing. Granted, I don't think he was totally clean yet, but still, its unprofessional behavior.

    Sammy raised the key of Jump from C to D. Apparently Eddie liked playing it there, because when Dave joined the band they played it "in D" tuned half step down, so really it's Db.

    Eddie's guitar is obviously flat compared to the track. It sounds like it's between C and Db. Whether it was a failure on the guitar or a mistake by the tech (Eddie has a crazy tuning procedure his techs have to follow) it doesn't matter. Either way, fucking stop, man. It's not worth making a point in front of 15,000 people because somebody made a mistake. Grab another guitar and go.

    Oh, and here's the original video in case you just want to hear what's happening for yourself.


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    at 1:47 mark it looks like a scared Tech is trying to hand Ed another guitar (probably in standard tuning), and Eddie just kinda shrugs it off and says fuck it. Ed also looks pretty hammered so this is what you get... just another page in Van Halen lore... 2007 Dave was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacfanweb View Post
    I would hate to have to sit through Ozzy singing anything twice these days. He's tuned everything down to sub-sonic levels.
    I would not go see Ozzy for free. Lost his voice decades ago. And people talk about DLR....

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    Ozzy is like 70 going on 110 though.
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    Ozzy. Please hang it up.

    C'mon now. All you "they sounded great when I saw them" types. Lol

    Decibel level isnt a true barometer.


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    I think I might be seeing Ozzy (for free) on October 11th at The Hollywood Bowl. My boss and are probably going to take a couple customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    I think I might be seeing Ozzy (for free) on October 11th at The Hollywood Bowl. My boss and are probably going to take a couple customers.
    Sorry to hear that.

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    That's a whole lot better than i expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    That's a whole lot better than i expected

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    I'd rather hear a singer drop their voice a whole octave and have the music at the same key and tuning than to drop the music down a step or sometimes even two. Just sounds like muddled shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    Ozzy. Please hang it up.

    C'mon now. All you "they sounded great when I saw them" types. Lol

    Decibel level isnt a true barometer.

    Wow that was horrendous all the way around. Makes the Ace Frehley show I saw a few years ago sound like Dream Theater. Lol at Zakk in a kilt.

    How long has Ozzy been using a Cross as his main stage prop. Not to get into religion, but that always sorta bothered me. I don't know Ozzy personally, so I don't know if he is a Christian or not, but regardless - I don't think it should be on stage behind him as he's dropping F bombs all nite. Just my opinion
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    Listen to Jump in Charlotte from 2 nights prior. Keys are exactly the same.

    So Ed's guitar is the culprit here, evidently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJC View Post
    at 1:47 mark it looks like a scared Tech is trying to hand Ed another guitar (probably in standard tuning), and Eddie just kinda shrugs it off and says fuck it. Ed also looks pretty hammered so this is what you get... just another page in Van Halen lore... 2007 Dave was awesome.

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    Awesome find, you're absolutely correct. He's got a replacement guitar in hand ready to go. I'm confident that is a shrug from Eddie as the camera pans away.

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