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    Discuss the differences and why you prefer one to the other without mentioning David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar.

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    This ought to go over well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    Discuss the differences and why you prefer one to the other without mentioning David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar.

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    For me it is all about Ed's approach. 78-84 is more raw and off the cuff to my ears, less "safe" and more experimental. I like the riffs better and I like the songs better.

    Robbie is always asking me to post some 86-95 stuff but I never really learned to play a lot of it because it doesn't suit me as a player as much - its more measured and polished and I prefer a less polished approach.

    I think that also carried over to the live shows as well, and that's why I prefer 78-84 both in terms of Ed's playing and the band as a whole.
    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

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    1978-1984 - Innovative, inventive, explosive, unstoppable fire.

    1986-1995 - More focused on songwriting, versatility, and precision.

    Both have their merits.

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    I'll take 1978-1984 Ed, only because when I compare 1995 Ed to 1981 Ed the differences are readily apparent and I know which one I prefer. 1986 Ed still had it going pretty well, though, so it's not say I never liked his playing in that second time period.
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    I prefer 78-84. Its a visceral connection.

    I was a big fan of the second era, as it was happening. Played those first 3 albums petty steadily. Saw a show on the F.U.C.K. tour that seemed like it was 4 dudes phoning it in. Thus, began my disenchantment with that era.

    These days, about once a month or so Iíll play an album or playlist from the 78-84 era. Maybe once a year or less Iíll do the same for the 86-95 era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    For me it is all about Ed's approach. 78-84 is more raw and off the cuff to my ears, less "safe" and more experimental. I like the riffs better and I like the songs better.

    Robbie is always asking me to post some 86-95 stuff but I never really learned to play a lot of it because it doesn't suit me as a player as much - its more measured and polished and I prefer a less polished approach.

    I think that also carried over to the live shows as well, and that's why I prefer 78-84 both in terms of Ed's playing and the band as a whole.
    Haha, didn't mean to put you on the spot! Just thought you might've had some of those songs or riffs under control. How about a medley?

    Our own alum Kevin Dodds posted his band doing Good Enough when they were in high school, waaaaaaaay back when. It was great! Seriously impressed at how well they pulled.it off, even back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRvh1 View Post
    Haha, didn't mean to put you on the spot! Just thought you might've had some of those songs or riffs under control. How about a medley?

    Our own alum Kevin Dodds posted his band doing Good Enough when they were in high school, waaaaaaaay back when. It was great! Seriously impressed at how well they pulled.it off, even back then.
    Yeah, I remember seeing that. It was cool for a bunch of 6th graders or whatever he was at the time.

    We used to play most of 5150 when we'd jam and I tried to play it the other day and was like WTF?

    I have no idea how I used to be able to play that. I suppose if I worked at it I could probably get it down again but damn that's a hard riff to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    Yeah, I remember seeing that. It was cool for a bunch of 6th graders or whatever he was at the time.

    We used to play most of 5150 when we'd jam and I tried to play it the other day and was like WTF?

    I have no idea how I used to be able to play that. I suppose if I worked at it I could probably get it down again but damn that's a hard riff to play.
    You're right, they were even younger than high school. I forgot that.
    5150? I could never get that one to sound right... Those chordal shapes terrified me! I could do certain parts and even some of the lead licks, yet the thought of putting them together coherently was not on my radar. It pissed me off! Haha.

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    Well I like 78-84, that launched every modern guitar player for the most part. Unique completely different riffs, controlled solos that were still on the edge and over, breaking walls.

    That said, I really liked a lot of the things Ed graduated to. Finish What Ya Started fir example, I think this was Ed telling country no matter how pop they got, they werenít good enough

    85-95, he seemed to not be working it so much as just jamming, which is why riffs like in Cabo just flowed so natural

    I kind of put it this way. 78-84 he defined what a classic was, 85-95 he played like he was the untouchable classic. He didnít need to reinvent the wheel anymore, he just had to jam

    But like a lot of geniuses like Ed, that wasnít enough, I think thatís a big part of his downward spiral, I think the reason he wanted 07 and on heís focused on the first gen, back to roots. I think thereís a big part of him that wants to launch more generations with even crazier stuff, but heís too scared to break out of what he knows many are looking for, itís why his live solos are mostly the same


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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    For me it is all about Ed's approach. 78-84 is more raw and off the cuff to my ears, less "safe" and more experimental. I like the riffs better and I like the songs better.

    Robbie is always asking me to post some 86-95 stuff but I never really learned to play a lot of it because it doesn't suit me as a player as much - its more measured and polished and I prefer a less polished approach.

    I think that also carried over to the live shows as well, and that's why I prefer 78-84 both in terms of Ed's playing and the band as a whole.
    Pretty much it in a nutshell for me, as well.

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    His tone always is changing but it was much warmer in the first decade. I'll skip over the steinberger stuff as to ke that was like off roading on sand dunes w a Ferrari just made no sense and did nothing for me except ruin a high performance engine.

    The remainder of that decade his playing was not as strong riff wise but he demonstrated great growth in the intricacies and subtle stuff he did within a lot of songs. The tone however seemed to morph the brown to more the buzz which was less appealing. I believe it was due to his ears decaying rather than approach.

    Would love to see him merge that riff mastery with the intricate work. I think his tone is improving again but will never be what it was since his ears will never be what they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    The tone however seemed to morph the brown to more the buzz which was less appealing. I believe it was due to his ears decaying rather than approach.
    Would love to see him merge that riff mastery with the intricate work. I think his tone is improving again but will never be what it was since his ears will never be what they were.
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    I think that's a very interesting point, and not just specific to Edward. Probably overlooked by many that aren't musicians themselves.
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    Iím going to say something as a guitarist and this is just my opinion. I just get this vibe when I hear Edís playing in the two eras versus each other.

    It is my opinion in watching dudes on YouTube who only concentrate on playing the Dave stuff, usually to me are players that are sloppy and less focused in their approach. And usually not all that impressive. I think the refined level of Edís playing in the Sam years is overlooked because a lot of guys donít like to tackle it because frankly they have to be too disciplined. I think most guys who take the time to learn the Sam stuff play it much better than those who only do Dave stuff. Iíve been far more impressed by guys who can pull off something like Humans Being, Amsterdam, Judgment Day, or 5150 than hearing another hack doing Eruption.The guys who do both to me are better players. And you can throw yours truly into that Dave situation because to me learning that stuff is an easier route and I really believe that. I think it is easier to master those songs than the Sam ones.

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