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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    They'll be mentioned with the hair metal 80's era.

    End of story.

    Nobody will be able to cite a single song other than Jump. Maybe Panama. Or the Kinks cover. Heck, that's true right now, not just in the future.

    Eddie, however...will be among the legends. Hendrix, Clapton, Page, EVH...
    Right Now will be remembered, it's an arena staple at sporting events.

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    A lot of folks seem to be overlooking that most of this music is already 30-40 years old. If I listen to rock radio on a long drive, I generally don't go more than 2 hours without hearing VH, about 70 percent of the Dave era hits but a significant amount of Sammy too, usually WCTBL, LWI, Dreams, WIL, FWYS, or Right Now. I remember being startled when "Dreams" was the song the Dems chose to play at the Convention in 2004 when Kerry accepted the nomination. If these songs are ubiquitous 30-40 years after they came out, I see no reason why they will not remain popular 30-40 years from now and beyond.

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    I think a lotta other people are right that VH will always get a passing mention when great rock bands are mentioned in history. But a brief passing mention. They won't ever be in same category as Beatles, Stones, Who or hell even U2 or Aerosmith. They could've been but again like others have stated they did it to themselves.
    Jump and some other hits will live on forever on classic rock or oldies rotation on whatever way people are hearing music in the future.
    But when the band is mentioned it will inevitably be mostly in regards to all the soap opera drama BS. Face it these days when VH is mentioned to a casual fan or music listener the question always begins with "Who's singing?"
    It's true in guitar player circles Ed will have a nice legacy. But to the general public the first thing they'll think of when the name Van Halen is mentioned is soap opera drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    Ban him.
    I'd tread lightly on calling for someone to be banned if I were you...
    The only genre I really know is Van Halen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    Right Now will be remembered, it's an arena staple at sporting events.
    Yeah, but half the people in the arenas don't even know it's Van Halen.

    I would hazard a guess that the most remembered Sam Halen track will be, for better or worse lol, WCTBL. Maybe Dreams.

    Seriously, though...Jump is their magnum opus for history. Sigh. Stellar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrideofPasadena View Post
    Millennials attended the '07 tour. I saw tons of them. I couldn't believe how many actually.
    Escorted by older family members or no?

    (I missed the '07 tour)

    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    Ehh, you could argue in the case of Hendrix and Bonham it was self inflicted.
    True, but Hendrix & Bonham didn't purpose to commit suicide.

    Van Halen consciously and deliberately screwed their legacy.

    Other bands have had conflicts, but Van Halen is nuts; three of the band's four members share a surname, and they all love each other. Even with Mike on bass, he's the Mother Theresa of music.
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    There weren't any kiddos at the SoCal gigs lol. All geezers like us, or older.

    No, millennials do not care about Van Halen. Truth be told, the only old school outfits that seem to have transcended all four recent generations, including boomers, GenX, GenY, and the millennials seems to be Zeppelin, the Beatles and U2. Not even the Stones, or even AC/DC. Sure, some kids wear the logos...but attending shows? Not so much. And those that did, were with parents usually. At least, in Los Angeles.

    I can literally ask every single of one of my kids' friends about VH, and they won't know who they are, not even a clue. I don't know if Zep or U2 or the Beatles will transcend another 50 years, but I know VH won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get The Show On The Road View Post
    I'd tread lightly on calling for someone to be banned if I were you...
    And why is that? Being outspoken and calling someone an ass is a far cry from someone calling for exterminations or saying liberal fags can live or die. And I also remember being told to hang myself on this site. Don't dare equate my benign swiping with that vile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dart93 View Post
    A lot of folks seem to be overlooking that most of this music is already 30-40 years old. If I listen to rock radio on a long drive, I generally don't go more than 2 hours without hearing VH, about 70 percent of the Dave era hits but a significant amount of Sammy too, usually WCTBL, LWI, Dreams, WIL, FWYS, or Right Now. I remember being startled when "Dreams" was the song the Dems chose to play at the Convention in 2004 when Kerry accepted the nomination. If these songs are ubiquitous 30-40 years after they came out, I see no reason why they will not remain popular 30-40 years from now and beyond.
    That's so easy I'm surprised the question needs to be asked.

    VH was recently found to be the 2nd most played artist on classic rock radio. (That's right...more than those bands some are claiming are bigger today than VH in this thread)

    Why is that? Is it because VH appeals to kids?

    We are still alive and we are the reason those old rock songs are still being played. What happens 50 years from now when we and all the fans of the other rock acts are dead?

    History isn't written during the lifetimes of the subjects of history. Rock music is already fading away so there is no reason to assume anyone will care about it in 2200.

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Squalen View Post
    There weren't any kiddos at the SoCal gigs lol. All geezers like us, or older.

    No, millennials do not care about Van Halen. Truth be told, the only old school outfits that seem to have transcended all four recent generations, including boomers, GenX, GenY, and the millennials seems to be Zeppelin, the Beatles and U2. Not even the Stones, or even AC/DC. Sure, some kids wear the logos...but attending shows? Not so much. And those that did, were with parents usually. At least, in Los Angeles.

    I can literally ask every single of one of my kids' friends about VH, and they won't know who they are, not even a clue. I don't know if Zep or U2 or the Beatles will transcend another 50 years, but I know VH won't.
    Millennials don't care about any other rock bands either. Too many VH fans claim that's just a VH thing. They don't care about the Beatles and they don't care about Led Zep either. Some might cite a few hipster college students as proof that those bands have lasted, but I can find just as many hipster college students who know about Buster Keaton or Alfred Hitchcock.

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    Classic Rock radio stations are disappearing as well.

    The audience is dying off and there’s not enough young listeners to keep it going.

    Kinda like the Republican Party.
    Eddie Van Halen in 2012:

    "ESQ: What are you going to do with all the material that you wrote with Sammy Hagar?

    EVH: Oh, I hadn't thought about that. That's some great music. They're just on vacation, maybe. They're off to college and they're going their own way. Who knows?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    Classic Rock radio stations are disappearing as well.

    The audience is dying off and there’s not enough young listeners to keep it going.

    Kinda like the Republican Party.
    The Republican Party is disappearing? What does that say about the Democratic Party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coulda Hada VH View Post
    The Republican Party is disappearing? What does that say about the Democratic Party?

    Ha. It was just a joke. Democrats are fucked right now but that pendulum always swings back.
    Eddie Van Halen in 2012:

    "ESQ: What are you going to do with all the material that you wrote with Sammy Hagar?

    EVH: Oh, I hadn't thought about that. That's some great music. They're just on vacation, maybe. They're off to college and they're going their own way. Who knows?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaboChris View Post
    My personal opinion is that Ed will be remembered. The band's music? Probably not. At least not how The Beatles or Zep are and how they keep gaining new generations of fans.
    Funny there's a great book on their influence and how they would define an era. Perhaps you should read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    They’ll be remembered as an ‘80s rock band.

    That’s their defining decade and when they were at the peak of their success. I’m
    They were pretty damn good in the late 70s as well.

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