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    Default I sold my 5150 III and bought a SLP 59 Super Lead reissue ...

    Yes I may be crazy but I sold my 5150 III 100 wt and bought a Super Lead 59
    reissue with the built in effects loop.

    Now I am looking into a nice gain/distortion pedal that will get the old school VH era
    sounds, but I want to make sure this pedal delivers the sustain as well.
    I have a TS9 but it doesn't cut it at low volume.

    Can someone recommend a good pedal for this Marshall, considering the amp
    will be played with the volume around 2, so there will not be any gain coming
    from the amp. I will just be jamming in the house, not out live and cranked up.

    Or should I just but the Line 6 HX pedal ?? Are the drives/distortions on this
    OK thru a clean amp?

    Any suggestions?

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    If you're going for VH:




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    Sweet. I have read that these may cause your tubes to start going out within a year, is that true?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYAB View Post
    Sweet. I have read that these may cause your tubes to start going out within a year, is that true?

    Thanks!
    I don't know about the attenuator, but with the Variac I've heard that's the case. Maybe even faster than a year. Tubes don't like to be ran at a voltage lower than they were designed for. It's like if your power starts to go out and the TV dims for a few seconds, the next thing you know it can be screwed.

    I don't know about things like the Hot Plate or the Power Brake, though. Surely they factored that in since that's what they're specifically designed for. Frankly I thought Master Volume amps were created in the late 80's because they got you around this. Eddie used a non-master volume amp because at the time they were the old model that no one wanted that you could get for cheap.

    Also, you have a lot of nerve posting about this new amp with no video.

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    I use a Friedman BE-OD with my JCM 800 & it works great as a boost/overdrive.
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    That's kind of a funny name, seeings how Jim Marshall built his first amp in 1962

    I have neither the Marshall, nor the 5150 OD pedal,
    but that would seem to be the obvious suggestion
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    For a stand alone distortion I`d go with the Friedman BEOD and for something to add a lot of boost and saturation I`d use the Friedman Buxom Boost. The cool thing with that SLP you can choose between the high and low inputs to see what works best with whatever pedal you choose. My first choice would be the BEOD , second choice would be the EVH MXR 5150 pedal. Sounds like for jamming in the house your not gonna need a boost pedal but the Buxom Boost is awesome if you`re ever looking into one . What speakers are you using ?
    You may think I`m being mean but I`m really just being sarcastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYAB View Post
    Sweet. I have read that these may cause your tubes to start going out within a year, is that true?

    Thanks!

    If your just gonna be playing in the house and you want to use a pedal for your distortion tone I wouldn`t worry about a variac or attenuator unless of course you want to go down the rabbit hole of chasing the tone .
    You may think I`m being mean but I`m really just being sarcastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnbuckle View Post
    That's kind of a funny name, seeings how Jim Marshall built his first amp in 1962

    I have neither the Marshall, nor the 5150 OD pedal,
    but that would seem to be the obvious suggestion
    The problem is that a lot of people think that the model name of 1959 is a year. Nope. It's a catalog number for their distributor, Rose-Morris. The model 1959 was introduced in 1967 along with model 1987 (the 50 watt Lead Amplifier). There's also models 1986 (50 watt Bass), and the 1992 (100 watt Super Bass), as well as others.

    For the record, my above answer was in regards to the EVH sound. Tubes last a shorter amount of time because the Variac set to 92VAC lowers the heater voltage which potentially causes cathode stripping, but it also lowers the B+ voltage, which causes the tubes to have less output and thus it's less strenuous on them.

    It really depends on what sound you want. Pedal distortion will always sound different than preamp tube or power tube distortion. Early VH is power tube distortion with 6CA7s instead of EL34s.
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    Thanks for the input!
    Right now I have just been enjoying the amazing clean sound out of
    the amp volume on 1 with a little reverb. Its unreal how nice it is.


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    I've had one of the 1959 RIs and have built two clones - 68 and 69 Metros. I had my tech install his own sort of Variac into the 69, so I can run the volumes hard and not blow the house down. The 68 (12000) has a low and high Variac switch, but that really just colors the tone more than shaves the volume down. You need to get a good attentuator or run a pedal. A Variac will require you to bias the amp according to the lower plate voltage, which will then be totally out of whack if you don't use the Variac or raise the voltage. The bias won't scale on its own. Though my tech's version of it does scale.

    Anyway, when I've really nailed the old VH brown sound, I ran it with the channels not jumpered, plugged into the upper right jack, dimed volume 1 and then used volume 2 as the real volume. I have used a BE-OD, but slightly better is the Freaking Sick 30v pedal. The Dirty Shirley pedal will get there too, but you need to adjust the internal trim pot.

    While I have a Fryette Power Station, I prefer to play at full band volume and just use a pair of cheapo foam earplugs. And you should be using a cab with well-worn-in Greenbacks.

 

 

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