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    So believe it or not, my Kramer Pacer Classic is the priciest guitar I own. I bought it new in 2015 from suggestions on here. It's a ~$350 USD guitar new so the pickups sound pretty muddy IMO and not much to write home about. So I want to get a new bridge pickup. Most people here initially suggested I get a Seymour Duncan JB when they suggested the guitar to me, which is what I'm leaning toward. I mostly play hard rock, all other types of rock, some metal, and some blues. However, I'd also like to be able to get a passable EVH tone and all the things that go along with him (harmonics, etc). My current amp is a Peavey 6505+ 112 which already gets me part of the way there with the settings I use.

    So, I guess what I'm asking is, should I just go with the JB, or are there other options I should consider, given the above?

    (Also, yes, I'm aware that how good or bad I play is a huge factor in sound, I'm working on it. And I measured my pickup spacing and the bridge is just over two inches, which means it is f-spaced, correct?)

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    The JB is pretty popular and a good choice. I'd also suggest the DiMarzio PAF Pro.
    Steve Vai had it in his early Jem 777 guitars, so it's no slouch at getting great rock tones... Many others to choose from.

    And yeah, F spaced is the way to go - usually - if a guitar has a Floyd Rose style bridge.

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    Cant go wrong with a JB
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    Seymour Duncan Perpetual Burn. Awesome Pickup. Cleans up well when rolled back to 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobozos View Post
    Seymour Duncan Perpetual Burn. Awesome Pickup. Cleans up well when rolled back to 8
    That would be a good match for the OP as the PB is not an overly hot pickup and the 6505 is a pretty hot amp. I think it would work well
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    Not sure which 'EVH' sound you're going for, but I'm a huge fan of the tonezone-air norton combo. I just ordered my second set that's going in another guitar my luthier is building, I have them in the floyd rose neck of my Spanked guitar and it's amazing. Very versatile too.

    Can't go wrong with anything suggested in this thread in my opinion

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    I'm a big fan of the Seymour Duncan Custom Custom in the bridge. That's what I have in the bridge of my Pacer. I cheaped out on the neck pickup and got a GFS VEH, but it sounds decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaminub View Post
    Not sure which 'EVH' sound you're going for, but I'm a huge fan of the tonezone-air norton combo. I just ordered my second set that's going in another guitar my luthier is building, I have them in the floyd rose neck of my Spanked guitar and it's amazing. Very versatile too.

    Can't go wrong with anything suggested in this thread in my opinion
    Tone Zone/Air Norton... Isn't that the combo that has been suggested numerous times as being 'basically' the same pickups as Ed's EBMM guitars?

    I put a TZ in an old pawn shop Kramer once, and liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evhintexas View Post
    Cant go wrong with a JB
    The JB is the jack of all trades. Jazz, blues rock, metal, it can do it all beautifully. I have one in a guitar I don't play and i'll be pulling it out and putting in my Wolfgang soon.
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    I agree with pretty much all the suggestions so far. I have a Custom Custom in my Wolfgang and Les Paul. I put a Perpetual burn in my strat for a different tone. It’s hard to say which I like better. The Perpetual Burn is a little lower output, but seems to have a little more “bite” than the Custom Custom. The Custom Custom sounds thicker than the Perpetual Burn.

    I’ve used the JB as well. You really can’t go wrong with a JB, but I wanted a little different character. The thing you lose in a JB, is that while it is a great all around pickup, there is nothing really unique about it. I guess that’s the price you pay when you get a pickup that is good at everything.

    A EVH Frankenstein pickup is a good solid choice too, but it’s a loud pickup, and very transparent. When I say loud, I mean when I plugged in my Frankenstein equipped guitar after my Custom Custom equipped guitar, I almost had to turn the amp volume down.
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    I'm actually leaning toward a Tone Zone now. I've heard a few people say it sounds like 90's EVH. I've listened to the JB and I agree it sounds too "generic." The more I listen, the more I don't think I want that.

    I've recently started using a detune (Boss PS-6 Harmonist) with a delay, so I've been leaning towards using the mid-80s to 90s Ed kind of sounds as the base for my tone. Would the Tone Zone do that well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Space Ace View Post
    I'm actually leaning toward a Tone Zone now. I've heard a few people say it sounds like 90's EVH. I've listened to the JB and I agree it sounds too "generic." The more I listen, the more I don't think I want that.

    I've recently started using a detune (Boss PS-6 Harmonist) with a delay, so I've been leaning towards using the mid-80s to 90s Ed kind of sounds as the base for my tone. Would the Tone Zone do that well?
    Tone Zone is a good pickup, but I would offer a word of caution. The Tone Zone works great in guitars with floating trems, because it tends to be a littly bass-y on the top three strings. In a guitar with a decked trem or a fixed bridge, you will need to adjust the top of the pickup away from the strings a bit to keep it from getting muddy on the bass strings.

    I've had three Tone Zone pickups in three different guitars, and I always found I needed to adjust them that way, even in my RG. I know people say the Tone Zone is supposed to be like a EBMM/EVH pickup, but I've never heard it that way. To my ears, an Air Zone actually sounds closer to the original EBMM/EVH pickups that the Tone Zone.
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    Hmm...now I'm even more undecided.

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    I'll preface this with "Now don't get me wrong... I LOVE my EVH Wolf pickups... but."

    Please consider a Pariah Pasadena Black! I threw one in my 5150 a while back and it's amazing! I'm a bit blown away by how great it sounds every time I plug that guitar in! The Pasadena Black is his 80's EVH humbucker. I VERY HIGHLY recommend it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth5150 View Post
    I'll preface this with "Now don't get me wrong... I LOVE my EVH Wolf pickups... but."

    Please consider a Pariah Pasadena Black! I threw one in my 5150 a while back and it's amazing! I'm a bit blown away by how great it sounds every time I plug that guitar in! The Pasadena Black is his 80's EVH humbucker. I VERY HIGHLY recommend it!
    Oh sweet. I've seen some of the videos you've posted on here with that 5150 and always thought your tone was awesome. I searched for that pickup on YouTube and your Summer Nights cover was one of the top results. I think you've sold me on that.

 

 

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