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    Default Big Gear Day!

    Well, not really, but I'm pretty excited. I finally got to pick up my Fly Rig 5 from GC, as the police hold has expired (but enough about the police hold), and also got a call from my buddies at Flores music that my Bassbreaker 15 was off the bench and ready for pick-up.

    The Bassbreaker 15 was in for a noisy effects loop. I've never been able to use the effects loop since I got it. I completely gave up on ever using it until I became aware that Fender sent out a Tech Note that the effects loop jacks needed to be changed on some of them. I took it in and they got it fixed, no charge.

    So now, I have a few things I will be doing tonight.

    1) Set up PA and see how the Fly Rig 5 sounds direct into the board
    2) Run my 5150 Overdrive into the front end of the Fly Rig 5 with the "Plexi" off, and see how the SansAmp handles the Overdrive
    3) Run my 5150 Overdrive into my Bassbreaker 15, and see how it sounds. I haven't used my Bassbreaker with a 5150 Overdrive yet, and I got it while my amp was in the shop.
    4) Run my Pitchfactor in the effects loop of the Bassbreaker 15, with and without the 5150 Overdrive in front of it to see how it sounds with the effects loop corrected.

    So now, Rig Rundown:

    My primary rig consists of a 5150 III 1x12 combo, and a Bassbreaker 15. I A/B them, 5150 for dirt and Fender for cleans. I can also turn my Fender to High Gain mode and turn on A and B, and it sounds pretty glorious.

    So why have a 5150 Overdrive when I already have a 5150 III Combo? Options.

    Alternate rig one:
    -For smaller gigs where I don't have room for, or don't want to bring everything. I put the 5150 overdrive in front of the Fender with the Pitchfactor in the effects loop, and I should have just about the same sound as what I do with the 5150 III Combo and the Fender. Also useful for band practice.

    Alternate rig two:
    -For open Mic nights or super small gigs where stage space is extremely limited. I put the 5150 overdrive in front of the Fly Rig 5, and use the on-board delay to approximate a chorus and delay effect, set up the SansAmp for cleans, the Plexi for a good heavy tone. I run this direct into the console and feed the guitar back to me in the monitors. I would basically have a virtual 3 channel amp setup, with Clean, moderate high gain with the Plexi, and my usual tone with the 5150 Overdrive.

    Now, I just need to go home and figure out if this is all going to work the way I just described to my satisfaction. The nice thing is, I can set the 5150 Overdrive up, and A/B it in real time with my 5150 Combo to dial in my tone.
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    So, I had a chance to play around with my stuff tonight, and here's the results:

    I spent most of my time playing around with the Fly Rig, mostly because I was prey blown away by it. Plugged into my PA, and spent about 15 minutes playing around with the EQ on the SansAmp portion to get the clean tone dialed in the way I liked it before I even turned on the Plexi portion. I turned on the Plexi, and at first I had the gain set at about 4 o'clock. I was pretty happy with it. It was nice and thick, but after a while, I turned it to about 2 o'clock, and I think that is where it sounds best. Nice and crunchy classic rock tone. When you kick the Hot button, it raises the volume slightly and fattens up the gain a bit.

    When I was content with the settings on the Fly Rig, I put the 5150 Overdrive in front of it, and it sounded really outstanding. Almost exactly like I remember it sounding in front of my Hot Rod Deluxe. I screwed around with that for a little while and determined that I needed to bring the gain on the SansAmp portion down from 12 o'clock to about 10 o'clock. Perfection.

    Next, I put the 5150 Overdrive in front of my Bassbreaker. It sounded ok, but not as good as the Fly Rig, and not as good as it used to sound into my old HRD. I was able to tweak it and get it to sound close to what it should, but never got it to sound exactly right. I don't think I would ever be able to set it to where it's going to be mistaken for the actual amp, but I could easily get that plugged into the Fly Rig. It must either be the size of the cabinet, or the EL-84 tubes in the Bassbreaker coloring the tone.

    Anyway, I didn't get a chance to get the pitchfactor into the loop tonight, but I will update when I do.
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    I've been seeing a lot of video of Ritchie Kotzen using the Flyrig 5 and a wah wah. He sounds totally kuckass.
    Post up some audio if you can please
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    I'll see what I can do. Trying to decide the best way to do the recordings. I could go direct out of the board and into Garage Band. I'd like to do it with my 5150III Combo Mic'd into one channel, and the Fly Rig with the 5150 Overdrive into the other so I can A/B them in real time to hear the differences.

    The other option is just to take a video with the Ipad, which would let you hear what it actually sounds like in the room. Not sure which I'd like to do yet.
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