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    My first thought after reading that was I hope he does fall, all the way to the Pats. They need a guy who’ll be ready in 2-3 years.
    Nah...Brady will be playing until he's 55.
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    Colin Cowherd made his pick for the Championship.

    He thinks that Georgia will be overrun by OU.

    He thinks that Bama will narrowly squeak by Clemson.

    And, he thinks that OU, with Baker Mayfield, will beat Bama.

    He also states that Mayfield will win the Heisman, and after beating Bama, the country will go Mayfield nuts.

    But that said Colin, said that Mayfield is good for a 3rd or 4th round pick, but in no way should go 1 or 2. He thinks college QBs with too much "flash" do not do well in the Pros, citing Manziel, RG3, Tebo, and Vince Young. He prefers QBs without flash, like Tom Brady.

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    I'm not going to pretend I know a ton about QB play at the NFL level, other than to say you can be successful if you're accurate and can process information/make good decisions quickly. I've heard that Mayfield is an accurate thrower with a strong arm who has some football IQ. That would/could be the difference between him and some of those other guys.

    What struck me reading SI was that Jimmy G was compared quite a bit with guys like Romo (granted, same school) and Favre as far as being from that gunslinger mode, and Favre also came up in the Mayfield article. That's where I thought hey, maybe the Pats if he drops...

    That said, again, I have no real idea, just going off that SI article.
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    OU is not winning the National Championship.

    They haven't seen defenses like the ones they will face.

    If they do, then Baker Mayfield is as good as everyone thinks he is.
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    So why is Alabama a 2-1/2 point favorite over Clemson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    Colin Cowherd made his pick for the Championship.

    He thinks that Georgia will be overrun by OU.

    He thinks that Bama will narrowly squeak by Clemson.

    And, he thinks that OU, with Baker Mayfield, will beat Bama.

    He also states that Mayfield will win the Heisman, and after beating Bama, the country will go Mayfield nuts.

    But that said Colin, said that Mayfield is good for a 3rd or 4th round pick, but in no way should go 1 or 2. He thinks college QBs with too much "flash" do not do well in the Pros, citing Manziel, RG3, Tebo, and Vince Young. He prefers QBs without flash, like Tom Brady.
    Gee, there's a hot take. He would take Tom Brady over Johnny Manziel. No shit. So would everyone knowing what we know now. You know who else wasn't flashy? Blaine Gabbert. It's also worth noting that the examples of "flashy" QBs are ones that are generally mobile and/or pass/run threats. That doesn't seem to work as well in the NFL when everyone is bigger (eliminating more holes), faster (they can close gaps and chase you down), and stronger (they are more likely to injure you). That's not really a hot take either, but it's clear that drafting a QB is a total crapshoot.
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    So why is Alabama a 2-1/2 point favorite over Clemson?
    What does that have to do with Baker Mayfield?
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    What does that have to do with Baker Mayfield?
    Nothing. I'm just wondering why Alabama is favored over Clemson?
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    OU isn't winning a title. And Mayfield is very overrated.
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    Gee, there's a hot take. He would take Tom Brady over Johnny Manziel. No shit. So would everyone knowing what we know now. You know who else wasn't flashy? Blaine Gabbert. It's also worth noting that the examples of "flashy" QBs are ones that are generally mobile and/or pass/run threats. That doesn't seem to work as well in the NFL when everyone is bigger (eliminating more holes), faster (they can close gaps and chase you down), and stronger (they are more likely to injure you). That's not really a hot take either, but it's clear that drafting a QB is a total crapshoot.
    Coaching is so important too. Look at Jared Goff. He didn't have a coaching staff last year and he was absolutely atrocious and lost as a rookie. Now this year he looks like one of the best quarterbacks in football.

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    Brady wouldn't be as good as he is without the coaches he's worked with. And vice versa. Takes a village.

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    I enjoyed watching Army defeat Navy in the snow in Phili on TV today.
    That was some wild weather to play in. This game is always a favorite of mine.
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    That was a cool game.

    I saw the punk Mayfield won the Heisman. Good for him.
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    I saw the punk Mayfield won the Heisman. Good for him.
    Ah, heisman curse/jinx. Ok. And he's still a Jerk.
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