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    According to the offical VH website, VH has sold 63-64 million records. According to www.riaa.com, VH has sold 50.50 million records.

    Obviously both cannot be correct. Either one is correct and the other wrong. Or, both are incorrect.

    Is there other sites etc... where one can look up records sales for various artists?

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    does the riaa only do us sales though? the vh website may include all countries, although i'd be suprised if they'd only sold 13million outside the us

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    Alex Van Halen said the band had sold over 80 million albums worldwide as of 1998. ( This was on the Howard Stern Show on March 17, 1998.) In 1991, during Van Halen's award for "Best Rock Album Artist" at the Billboard Music Awards, Paul Schaefer announced that =VH= had sold over 65 million albums worldwide upon the success of F.U.C.K. Knowing that they released LRHRN, Balance, BOVI, and III since then, I am sure the 80 million number worldwide is not too far off the mark.

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    All I know is that Sammy has sold 200 million albums worldwide [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    From what I can gather, the RIAA performs an accounting of record sales only at the request of the record company and they charge a fee for doing so. For instance, AC/DC's label had the RIAA update the accounting of their sales to coincide with the release of their latest record. The new accounting pushed AC/DC's "official" sales figures up several million and garnered them several more gold and platinum records.

    It is entirely possible that RIAA's sales figures for VH or any other artist are considerably lower than the real figures.

    Here's a link that explains the certification process in greater depth: http://www.riaa.com/Gold-Cert-1.cfm

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    Of course all of the numbers being thrown around here were audited and approved by Arthur Anderson. So we KNOW they're accurate. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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    no one gets a fair accounting of their sales numbers from the labels...god forbid the label have to pay an artist more money...
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    I think the 80 million mark is a good ballpark figure. Pretty fucking awesome.
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    Originally posted by twonabomber:
    no one gets a fair accounting of their sales numbers from the labels...god forbid the label have to pay an artist more money...
    Sad, but probably true...
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    What lance watts posted is accurate.

    The RIAA audits the sales of a particular album, single, or video only at the request of a record label and at a fee per release audited.

    The RIAA listed the last audit for each VH record as follows, with RIAA sales totals and VH official website totals listed in parentheses in millions, respectively:

    Van Halen - 1996 (10, 10.3)
    Van Halen II - 1990 (4, 5.7)
    Women and Children First - 1994 (3, 4.3)
    Fair Warning - 1994 (2, 3.4)
    Diver Down - 1998 (4, 4)
    1984 - 1999 (10, 10)
    5150 - 1994 (5, 6.9)
    OU812 - 1989 (3, 4.4)
    FUCK - 1994 (3, 3.8)
    Right Here, Right Now - 1993 (2, 2.5)
    Balance - 1995 (2, 2.9)
    Best of Vol. I - 1998 (2, 2.4)
    III - 1998 (0.5,

    If every VH release in the catalog was audit right now, VH's official tally would jump from 50.50 million (US Sales) to (guess work and logical assumptions on my part) between 65 million and 75 million. Keep in mind that most of the sales estimates given at van-halen.com were through '99 and have not been updated since.

    It would appear that a new tally would result in the following US sales figures:

    Van Halen - (12 or 13 million)
    Van Halen II - (6 or 7 million)
    Women and Children First - (5 or 6 million)
    Fair Warning - (4 or 5 million)
    Diver Down - (5 million)
    1984 - (11 million)
    5150 - (7 or 8 million)
    OU812 - (5 million)
    FUCK - (5 million)
    Right Here, Right Now - (3 million)
    Balance - 1995 (3 million)
    Best of Vol. I - 1998 (3 or 4 million)
    III - 1998 (0.5 million)

    The Roth era albums would jump probably about 2 or 3 million per, with the exception of '84 and DD, since they were audited relatively recently.

    The Hagar era albums would jump probably about 2 million per, with the exception the "live" album and Balance.

    An increase in 10 million in sales would push VH into 11th place all-time, a 15 million bump would put them just behind Streisand for 9th, and a 25 million jump would place them 7th.

    My guess is, VH would probably get a boost of about 14 or 15 million (van-halen.com has a boost of about 11.3 million).

    I doubt anyone really cared, but I am a chart and sales nut, so I really enjoy this type of discussion.

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    Hey Olen - can you make up the sales for solo Roth?

    I know CFTH, EEAS and SS haven't been updated since the late '80's.

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    Master Joe: According to the RIAA website, here is the DLR audit dates and sales figures -

    Crazy From The Heat - 1985 (1 million)
    Eat'em And Smile - 1986 (1 million)
    Skyscraper - 1988 (1 million)
    A Little Ain't Enought - 1991 (0.5 million)

    Your Filty Little Mouth & The DLR Band release from '98 are not listed.

    More guess work from ME:

    A new audit would probably bump the first three Roth releases from 1 million to around 3 or 4 million.

    A Little Ain't Enough is probably at 1 million.

    Audits of Filthy and DLR Band probably run between 300,000 and 1 million.

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    Van Halen has a website? [img]graemlins/wtf.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wtf.gif[/img]
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    metal-sludge.com has a section that posts actual sales figures for records. They don't state where they directly get their figures from, but I've no reason to think they make up stuff.
    "There's a Japanese term called wabi-sabi, not wasabi, but wabi-sabi. It means an appreciation for the imperfect, the less than precision. The cowboy boots that you never polish because it's bad luck. That is completely wabi-sabi. Van Halen is that." - DLR 2002<br /><br />"Look! I can see their parachutes! They're ok..." - Tenshinhan, DragonBall Z

 

 

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