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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That's a dumb comment by Hannity.
    I thought so too and I heard it with my own ears. Carl Rove went off! Pelosi is one of the most wealthy in Congress. She has power and she will only tell you about the legislation after they vote on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Since we aren't a democracy and that doesn't matter, they might not want to follow your plan.

    A- Fix the gerrymandering. This will improve their numbers in the House and also in state legislatures.
    B- They have a majority of voters, but they still need to increase turn and/or change minds in swing states. New leadership would hopefully have some new ideas on making that goal a reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCh5150 View Post
    That's why they want illegals to be able to vote. If you can't have new ideas, get new voters.
    Please keep harping on this bullshit.

    Don't worry, with Trump in the Oval Office, GOP controlled congress, and an Attorney General who doesn't support what's left of the Voting Rights Act, it will be made a lot harder for people who don't vote GOP to be allowed to vote.

    If you don't have a good idea, just make it harder for your opposition to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    Not sure what they will do. I think they are putting all their eggs into Trump imploding (a definite possibility) so that anybody looks good as with their leadership. The problem they have is who are the young Democrats who will take this party over from Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, etc? Sure you have I guess Michelle Obama out there but that is really it. Maybe that New Jersey guy. I forgot his name but he was Mayor or something? At least with the Republican party they have younger people in leadership roles or in Congress that people can identify with. Rubio, Cruz, Ryan for instance.

    What is Pelosi going to bring different that she did against Bush?
    Trump imploding......I read something where they were talking about how the constitution having an automatic impeachment clause

    25th amendment article 4 section 4 allows the Vice President and a majority of the cabinet to declare the President incompetent to discharge the duties of the office

    in which case the vice President becomes the President. until the President becomes competent and appeals the declaration I believe it was what they used when Reagan was shot.....and also for GW's colonoscopy LOL....but Trump might be more careful about putting his former enemies in cabinet positions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJENZ View Post
    A- Fix the gerrymandering. This will improve their numbers in the House and also in state legislatures.
    B- They have a majority of voters, but they still need to increase turn and/or change minds in swing states. New leadership would hopefully have some new ideas on making that goal a reality.
    you have to energize your voting base to get out the vote.

    so who is vying for DNC chair?

    Minnesotas Keith Ellison? not going to get those centrists they need
    Howard Dean? HEYYAAAAAAH
    Martin O Malley
    New Hampshire party chair Ray Buckley....not a clue who this guy is
    labor secretery Tom Perez a Hillary surrogate

    there has to be someone out there...biden says he has no interest

    and they say Obama has no interest and I get that as this is the time when big dollar book deals and speaking fees start racking up
    but I think no matter what he will be the de facto leader and anyone else is going to be second tier

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    You know Martin Omalley and Pelosi have ties to the same political machine in Maryland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJENZ View Post
    Please keep harping on this bullshit.

    Don't worry, with Trump in the Oval Office, GOP controlled congress, and an Attorney General who doesn't support what's left of the Voting Rights Act, it will be made a lot harder for people who don't vote GOP to be allowed to vote.

    If you don't have a good idea, just make it harder for your opposition to vote.
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    You must do yoga. That's one hell of a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That's a dumb comment by Hannity.
    Evergreen post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJENZ View Post
    Please keep harping on this bullshit.

    Don't worry, with Trump in the Oval Office, GOP controlled congress, and an Attorney General who doesn't support what's left of the Voting Rights Act, it will be made a lot harder for people who don't vote GOP to be allowed to vote.

    If you don't have a good idea, just make it harder for your opposition to vote.
    MAGA
    So please tell me how are people unable to vote?

    I mean where or when is it that people show up and are turned away because they are card carrying Democrats According to this, it appears that the vast majority of polling stations are open over 12 hours

    https://ballotpedia.org/State_Poll_O...g_Times_(2016)

    Now I know you will retort with "well there are not enough voting stations in the inner city. People have to stand in line....." Ok stand in line. You work an 8 hour day, two hours for commute and some states have laws allowing people to take paid time off from work. Most don't but most seem to have laws that if there is conflict you can take unpaid time off.

    http://www.findlaw.com/voting-rights-law.html

    If that doesn't work, then there is this thing called absentee ballot. Oh yeah there is early voting too.

    I am failing to see how people can't vote. I mean if I want to vote by mail. I can. If I want to vote early, I can. If I want to use a 12 hour block of time to vote, I can. Are there reports that absentee ballots from certain area codes just go missing?

    Oh you probably will bring up that many people in the inner cities don't have transportation. Sure seems to me that in about every city I have lived in, there is public transportation. Far more than in the suburbs where whitey lives. So I don't see why it would be so hard if you needed to go to a voting booth a mile away, you just can't get on the bus to get most likely dropped right in front

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJENZ View Post
    A- Fix the gerrymandering. This will improve their numbers in the House and also in state legislatures.
    B- They have a majority of voters, but they still need to increase turn and/or change minds in swing states. New leadership would hopefully have some new ideas on making that goal a reality.
    Democrats have a majority of the voters in urban centers in highly populated states. You can stuff more and more people in California and New York, but the number of electoral college votes will remain roughly the same.

    You can win 90% of the vote in California instead of 60%, and it will still net the same results.

    Both Bill and Barack told her not to just concentrate on urban centers, and she didn't listen to them...I mean what the fuck do they know about winning national elections, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That's a dumb comment by Hannity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    I'll say this about Democrats going forward. You have to ask yourselves if calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist is a winning strategy going forward. It's been going on for years. Now, post-Obama, Republicans have both houses in Congress, the White House, will be appointing SCOTUS justices, and have over 30 Governor's offices and over 30 legislatures in the states. If the plan, as it seems so far, is to double down on 'racist,' I think you may want to rethink that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
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    Howard Dean? HEYYAAAAAAH
    Looking back on it, that poor guy got railroaded. Goodnesss forbid, you show some enthusiasm. It's not like he gave that speech at the UN, he was in front of his equally raucous supporters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    That's a dumb comment by Hannity.
    Not sure why. Ryan is not a popular with the voters. If you're saying Ryan will stop being the next Boehner because of Trump's win, then yeah. Ryan can go duck himself with a pogo stick.

    As for the Democratic party, it will take an uprising from their voters similar to what happened to the Republicans.

    FAT CHANCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindtotheWorld View Post
    Looking back on it, that poor guy got railroaded. Goodnesss forbid, you show some enthusiasm. It's not like he gave that speech at the UN, he was in front of his equally raucous supporters.
    His behavior since then proved that he has no business being in government.
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