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    Biden unveiled his health care ideas yesterday and told us we can keep our doctor/plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    No. They haven't. But the continued bringing up of items that happened before I was born has about zero impact on me. We conquered the Native Americans, defeated the Mexicans, swindled the French, enslaved millions, and fabricated wars to build this country. So? Do you live in some dream world that thinks all the other countries in the world have clean hands?

    Here is the difference. I...don't...care...that we killed the Native Americans, or any of the rest of it. Why should I feel any responsibility for it, because I'm white? Cracker please. Just like I don't blame Prime Minister Merkel for the Holocaust. Every single country in the history of this planet has done horrible atrocities, the US is no different. So?
    This is a convenient position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    This is a convenient position.
    So in your little world, I should feel some sort of responsibility for it. Riiiiggghhttt.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    And that will be the next civil war. And trust me, now more “conservatives” are armed. So bring that shit. According to your ilk I already have a white hood since I’m a well off middle aged white dude. Might as well play the part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    So in your little world, I should feel some sort of responsibility for it. Riiiiggghhttt.
    Ah yes, my little global world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    Ah yes, my little global world.
    Quit deflecting. Do you think I should feel some sort of responsibility or shame for it?
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Quit deflecting. Do you think I should feel some sort of responsibility or shame for it?
    I think all white people should acknowledge and care about the sins of their ancestors and realize that they still benefit from a society that was built on enslavement, exploitation, and exclusion. Saying that you do not care about the atrocities of the past only perpetuates the notion that these people were less than and that they deserved their fate. So, yes, you do bear responsibility for the lingering effects of the sins of your (our) race, whether you accept that or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    I think all white people should acknowledge and care about the sins of their ancestors and realize that they still benefit from a society that was built on enslavement, exploitation, and exclusion. Saying that you do not care about the atrocities of the past only perpetuates the notion that these people were less than and that they deserved their fate. So, yes, you do bear responsibility for the lingering effects of the sins of your (our) race, whether you accept that or not.
    Ridiculous position. I mean absolutely ludicrous, the fact that you are a teacher is a failure of our education system.

    I bear zero responsibility for what my ancestors did, and neither do you, or any single human being on this planet.

    You can acknowledge that sins were committed as part of learning from them, and not have responsibility for them. It isn't binary, both are possible.
    If I don't respond to you it means I have you on ignore, which means you are a douchenozzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Ridiculous position. I mean absolutely ludicrous, the fact that you are a teacher is a failure of our education system.

    I bear zero responsibility for what my ancestors did, and neither do you, or any single human being on this planet.

    You can acknowledge that sins were committed as part of learning from them, and not have responsibility for them. It isn't binary, both are possible.
    It really is, isn't it?

    I love how he conveniently glosses over the fact that if you go back far enough, every single one of us has ancestors that were enslaved or treated poorly. That is the story of the human race, and it isn't limited to one particular shade of skin tone.

    I wonder why he's not saying that blacks ought to feel some guilt because their ancestors sold their own people into slavery in the first place. Not to mention that only a small minority of southern whites owned slaves in the first place - the majority of the population were not slave owners so the claim that "society was built on enslavement, exploitation, and exclusion" is utter bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    I think all white people should acknowledge and care about the sins of their ancestors and realize that they still benefit from a society that was built on enslavement, exploitation, and exclusion. Saying that you do not care about the atrocities of the past only perpetuates the notion that these people were less than and that they deserved their fate. So, yes, you do bear responsibility for the lingering effects of the sins of your (our) race, whether you accept that or not.
    One of the stupidest posts you have offered here. That's saying something.

    Dave's Dreidel already explained why but to add, what about blacks acknowledging their sins against Native Americans? I mean free blacks were allowed to explore the West and last time I checked, a lot of African Americans are currently living in lands that used to be lived upon by the Native Americans. If one accepts that our society was built on enslavement, exploitation, exclusion well the same goes for Native Americans. White, Black, Asian, etc are all living on land that was taken from them. No different than German citizens occupying homes that were Jewish. European countries started this movement and the United States finished it with Manifest Destiny. EVERYBODY today living in the United States is living on land that was stolen.

    So Lebron James is as guilty as me. Heck maybe even more since my ancestors didn't come here until 1900. His were freed earlier than that living on land taken from the Native Americans.

    AOC's ancestors came here as Spaniards and inflected viri and bacteria and killed far more Native Americans than the United States did from its creation. Should she bear responsibility for her crimes?

    As I said one of the most idiotic statements you have made.

    That said you are not the only one to think this way which is even scarier than you.

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    Biden unveiled his health care ideas yesterday and told us we can keep our doctor/plan.
    I hear it won't effect premiums and deductables too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Ridiculous position. I mean absolutely ludicrous, the fact that you are a teacher is a failure of our education system.

    I bear zero responsibility for what my ancestors did, and neither do you, or any single human being on this planet.

    You can acknowledge that sins were committed as part of learning from them, and not have responsibility for them. It isn't binary, both are possible.
    I swear you posted these same exact words to another banned asshat that not only made the same claims, but also claimed to be a teacher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
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    Not threatening. Read what I wrote.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1986 View Post
    I think all white people should acknowledge and care about the sins of their ancestors and realize that they still benefit from a society that was built on enslavement, exploitation, and exclusion. Saying that you do not care about the atrocities of the past only perpetuates the notion that these people were less than and that they deserved their fate. So, yes, you do bear responsibility for the lingering effects of the sins of your (our) race, whether you accept that or not.
    Pathetic. How you look in the mirror, I'll never know. If you really are a teacher, you are one of the biggest part of our problems. Made up problems.
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    During the contentious hearing, Garcia broadsided Homan with a half-dozen politically charged, personally insulting questions that included questioning whether Homan is racist and if he cares about dying children.

    "Mr. Homan, I'm a father. Do you have children? How can you possibly allow this to happen under your watch? Do you not care? Is it because these children don't look like children that are around you? I don't get it. Have you ever held a deceased child in your arms?" Garcia asked.


    Homan responded by calling Garcia's questions "disgusting" while defending his 34-year career, which he said focused on saving and protecting lives, including immigrants.

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