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    Default Discussion on Donation Drive 2017 - PLEASE READ!

    Hi guys,

    So while I realize it's only the middle of July, the server bill we be upon us soon. The reason I am starting this topic today is because several things have changed since last year, and I think we're going to have a hard time making it, so I don't want to waste any time.

    The server bill is due on October 1st, so that means we need all donations done and in by September 30th. And while that seems like a ways off, it comes up fast and it's not that easy to raise $4,000, especially when VH is dormant. So I have concerns already just because of that.

    The second thing is this...we can't use PayPal anymore as I mentioned several months ago. PayPal deems this site some file sharing site (what a load of bullshit btw there are NO files on this site) and won't allow us to use them anymore to take donations. Fighting PayPal is like yodeling in a canyon...pointless. So that means I can't use the internal subscription functions of the forum and will manually have to set up everyone as premium members after you donate.

    The best way I can figure out to do the donation collection is through Go Fund Me. While they take 8% + $.30 of each donation in US and Canada (Australia is 6.75% + $.30), PayPal took about the same by the way, it seems like safest and best way to go. A $30 donation comes out to around $27.30 for the site. There are NO fees for you to donate. And you also don't need an account like PayPal to donate, so that is also way better. So that means we need to raise somewhere around $4,600 which accounts for all the donation service fees they will take. Everyone will have to donate through the page on there I set up (which I will link from here), and then after you donate, let me know you have via PM and I'll re-up your account for the next year. That's really the only way to do it.

    Now the real bad thing is I can't control what people donate, I can't set up $30, $51.50 and $100 packages like we had before, so someone could donate $5. And while that's great and very much appreciated, we will NEVER get to $4,000 with people donating $5, unless they do it a lot, which of course is possible I guess. The $30 was actually a well-thought out number by the mods and I several years ago as a baseline donation that would get us there easier. For this to work people really need to continue to donate the same they used to, with at least giving $30. I've had the different tiers and if you guys want to donate in the same increments, that would obviously be best and keep it easy for me to update everyone's account like normal.

    So with this big change this year, I am very tempted to start this campaign on Monday and start the push. That will give us a little over 8 weeks and if I have to work out some kinks along the way, we'll have time. I know it's early this year, but I really just want to avoid any issues doing it a totally different way.

    I would like to get some feedback and make sure you guys are all OK with this, and it won't be a big deal to do it on Go Fund Me and let me know afterwards when you have. This will be the 4th year of the donation drive, and I've really appreciated everyone continuing to pitch in to keep this place going. We had a tough time getting there last year and the band was active, so I'm anticipating it's going to be even harder this year with the band doing nothing and our traffic not what it was. That's another reason to start it early.

    Thanks for your support!!

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    You bet your ass I will contribute what I can, but it will be closer to the end of the drive.

    Who are you hosting with? 4k seems like a lot but I may be underestimating the traffic we get.

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    What about Interac E Transfer.

    http://interac.ca/en/interac-e-transfer-consumer.html

    It goes direct from the senders online banking to the recipients email. Receiving a link to deposit the funds into their account. Neither party exchanges any personnel bank account info other than the institution. Then just have to answer a test question. Up here only cost a dollar.

    Maybe have to set up a separate account specifically for the website.

    That's my idea what would be easy for me & avoid extra fees.
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    Maybe doing a gofundme? I don't know what the fees are with that, if there are fees. It might not be a bad idea to use a crowdfunding platform.

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    Yes that's what we are going to use GoFundMe. That's what I was explaining. Haha.
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    I did notice on the GoFundMe site, there's mention of monthly payments. Have you considered offering a subscription type thing where people could kick in $5 or $10 (or more) per month throughout the year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    What about Interac E Transfer.

    http://interac.ca/en/interac-e-transfer-consumer.html

    It goes direct from the senders online banking to the recipients email. Receiving a link to deposit the funds into their account. Neither party exchanges any personnel bank account info other than the institution. Then just have to answer a test question. Up here only cost a dollar.

    Maybe have to set up a separate account specifically for the website.

    That's my idea what would be easy for me & avoid extra fees.
    I've used this many times with no problem. Easy as pie. But whichever way, I'm always in.

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    one good thing about the GoFundMe is, doesn't it give you an updated total as people donate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Yes that's what we are going to use GoFundMe. That's what I was explaining. Haha.
    Ha, I guess it was so late I skipped over that line.

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    I'm in for another $100.00 US.
    As per last year, can I send you a money order, directly? Then you get the full amount, and I might have another CD-R of stuff to include, to give you & the wife some more laughs...
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