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    really? That's your takeaway from the story? Geez ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    really? That's your takeaway from the story? Geez ...
    You know me better than that, Mike. It's horrible that a nut job(s) got a hold of a gun and killed her. I don't give a shit about her politics, she's a human being and didnt deserve that. Yeah, it was a bit douchey on my part.

    It's also sad that her death was politicized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    You know me better than that, Mike. It's horrible that a nut job(s) got a hold of a gun and killed her. I don't give a shit about her politics, she's a human being and didnt deserve that. Yeah, it was a bit douchey on my part.

    It's also sad that her death was politicized.
    it really is sad. I just don't like the gun control debate becoming the issue after tragedies. Don't like it when the pro gun control guys use tragedies to make political points in the states, nor when the anti gun control looks at any shooting outside the states and says "look, gun control doesn't work". We need lunatic control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    You know me better than that, Mike. It's horrible that a nut job(s) got a hold of a gun and killed her. I don't give a shit about her politics, she's a human being and didnt deserve that. Yeah, it was a bit douchey on my part.

    It's also sad that her death was politicized.
    This woman was my local MP & I worked in that town for over 20 years & it's totally devastating that this has happened. I didn't vote for her and don't support her politics but we do not live in a democracy for this to happen. I'm in the Caribbean on holiday right now but the UK press are going over board that this is linked to our EU Referendum next week band that it should be cancelled which is sickening.

    Gun control is not a major issue in our country unlike our friends in the US as instances like this are so rare.

    Two children & a husband right now are coming to terms with life without their loved one....far more important than whether we remain in Europe or any political gain. Those who say otherwise should hang their heads in shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    You know me better than that, Mike. It's horrible that a nut job(s) got a hold of a gun and killed her. I don't give a shit about her politics, she's a human being and didnt deserve that. Yeah, it was a bit douchey on my part.

    It's also sad that her death was politicized.
    It was an ANTIQUE gun - a musket of some sort - or home-made.

    It's been politicised because the KILLER politicised it.

    All I know is that this STUPID referendum, called for the most spurious of reasons, is literally hurting people and dividing communities.

    Even my own little North Wales town isn't exempt, for heaven's sake! A local bookshop owner had a 'remain' sign in his window and was stabbed for it. Meanwhile, there are bloody 4x4s driving around with trailers emblazoned with the word, 'Leave' - and you don't see THEM being targeted. (Personally, the fact that they're clogging up our narrow roads with their ridiculously OTT vehicles is enough to drive me to the edge ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    It was an ANTIQUE gun - a musket of some sort - or home-made.

    It's been politicised because the KILLER politicised it.

    All I know is that this STUPID referendum, called for the most spurious of reasons, is literally hurting people and dividing communities.

    Even my own little North Wales town isn't exempt, for heaven's sake! A local bookshop owner had a 'remain' sign in his window and was stabbed for it. Meanwhile, there are bloody 4x4s driving around with trailers emblazoned with the word, 'Leave' - and you don't see THEM being targeted. (Personally, the fact that they're clogging up our narrow roads with their ridiculously OTT vehicles is enough to drive me to the edge ).
    pretty awful stuff. We know these debates well as we had the Quebec separation vote not too many years ago. Brings out the worst in people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    It was an ANTIQUE gun - a musket of some sort - or home-made.

    It's been politicised because the KILLER politicised it.

    All I know is that this STUPID referendum, called for the most spurious of reasons, is literally hurting people and dividing communities.

    Even my own little North Wales town isn't exempt, for heaven's sake! A local bookshop owner had a 'remain' sign in his window and was stabbed for it. Meanwhile, there are bloody 4x4s driving around with trailers emblazoned with the word, 'Leave' - and you don't see THEM being targeted. (Personally, the fact that they're clogging up our narrow roads with their ridiculously OTT vehicles is enough to drive me to the edge ).
    Well that depends on who you believe. One witness says he shouted " Britain First" and another says he did not. It doesn't matter, she did not deserve to die at the hands of a madman.
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    Well that depends on who you believe. One witness says he shouted " Britain First" and another says he did not. It doesn't matter, she did not deserve to die at the hands of a madman.
    I think we can safely assume he said it - at least twice - especially with the name he has given upon being charged by police - 'Death to traitors; freedom for Britain'.

    Yes, he was a madman - it seems there are many of them. And the antagonism and vitriol being stirred up by people who should know better is just the excuse they need.

    Even 'normal', decent folk are being horrid to one another. The whole thing is a disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    I think we can safely assume he said it - at least twice - especially with the name he has given upon being charged by police - 'Death to traitors; freedom for Britain'.

    Yes, he was a madman - it seems there are many of them. And the antagonism and vitriol being stirred up by people who should know better is just the excuse they need.

    Even 'normal', decent folk are being horrid to one another. The whole thing is a disaster.
    But the eyewitnesses don't support the claim. Again, who cares? He was a madman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    pretty awful stuff. We know these debates well as we had the Quebec separation vote not too many years ago. Brings out the worst in people.
    I remember that separation vote. That was ugly
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    I remember that separation vote. That was ugly
    It really was. And that was the calm one. The earlier one in the 70s was a mess. So bad that the pm basically had to enforce war time measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    But the eyewitnesses don't support the claim. Again, who cares? He was a madman.
    Did you not read what I just said?

    It seems like a convenient guess on the part of witnesses, doesn't it - if he has more or less confirmed it by giving his name as basically the same thing, no?

    You may not 'care' - and that's fine - but when violent acts are being perpetrated even in sleepy North Wales, with this referendum as the instigating factor, I care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dibblekins View Post
    Did you not read what I just said?

    It seems like a convenient guess on the part of witnesses, doesn't it - if he has more or less confirmed it by giving his name as basically the same thing, no?

    You may not 'care' - and that's fine - but when violent acts are being perpetrated even in sleepy North Wales, with this referendum as the instigating factor, I care.
    Maybe you didn't read my posts. I care about the fact that she was murdered. I don't care about whether or not he shouted "Britain first" because he is insane.
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