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    Default Man sells $40 printer on Craigslist, ends up being sued for $30,000

    Selling things on Craigslist comes with some risk. You could end up being scammed, or possibly even robbed if you end up meeting a shady criminal type. Add to the list of potential concerns getting sued for $30,000. That’s what happened to a Massachusetts man named Doug Costello. Costello sold an old black and white printer to someone in Indiana for $40, leading to a $30,000 lawsuit that took more than six years to deal with.

    Costello’s mistake, apparently, was selling that printer to one Gersh Zavodnik in Indianapolis. This (presumably unpleasant) person makes it his business to buy things online in the hope they won’t live up to his expectations in some material way. In this case, Zavodnik claims the printer was not functional when it arrived. Therefore, he filed a lawsuit against Costello in small claims court for $6,000.

    It’s important to note that Zavodnik is what’s known as a pro se litigant, someone who represents himself in court cases. He knows enough about the legal system to swamp a normal person in confusing paperwork and filings to often get his way. Zavodnik didn’t let the dismissal of his small claims case be the end of it. Instead, he filed a case in Marion Superior Court alleging breach of contract, fraud, conversion, deceptive advertising, and emotional distress… for a printer.

    Zavodnik sent several documents to Costello over the years, asking him to admit liability for as much as $600,000. Costello ignored them, but it turns out under Indiana law that means you have admitted liability. In March of last year, a trial judge looked at this case and decided Zavodnik was entitled to more than $30,000 because of that broken printer. Are you appropriately terrified of selling used electronics on Craigslist now? Don’t worry, there’s a happy ending.

    Costello appealed the case, and the appeals court recently issued pointed verdict in Costello’s favor. The opinion says the $30,000 ruling “had no basis in reality.” Costello did have to spend $12,000 on legal fees to get this far, but he does still have the $40 from the original printer sale. So, he’s only out $11,960.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...egal-fees.html


    Meet Gersh Zavodnik

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...ough/16557777/


    Gersh Zavodnik has filed 134 lawsuits in Indiana naming people from outside Indiana, including several foreign countries. Search http://mycase.in.gov for his name under civil filings. He takes advantate of the fact that people cannot afford to travel to Indiana or hire legal counsel. He will claim that whatever you sold was defective or will even claim that he bought something from you when he didn't (he has no problem with lying). He'll sue for millions of dollars on the smallest of items.

    https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/...UiOm51bGx9fQ==
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    Default Man sells $40 printer on Craigslist, ends up being sued for $30,000

    I never send anything over Craigslist. You want it, come meet me for it. And I make them sign a bill of sale and an agreement that it is sold "as is" to release me from liability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I never send anything over Craigslist. You want it, come meet me for it. And I make them sign of a bill of sale and an agreement that it sold "as is" to release me from liability.
    This is awesome advice. Put it in writing.
    It applies to a lot more than just CL.
    I'm in the middle of trying to start a small painting business, and one thing a buddy told me, who has been doing it for sometime is make sure to cover your ass with putting any agreement, or bill of sale in writing. Never just a verbal good faith deal. Most people are pretty good in business transactions, bet there will ALWAYS be someone who will try to take advantage of any situation if given the opportunity and cause you nothing but stress, and possible monetary headaches.

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    Default Man sells $40 printer on Craigslist, ends up being sued for $30,000

    When you grow up with a lawyer in the house, you learn to put everything in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    When you grow up with a lawyer in the house, you learn to put everything in writing.
    I had to sign I received my allowance.

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    They should revoke his citizenship and send that fucker back to the Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by we die young View Post
    This is awesome advice. Put it in writing.
    It applies to a lot more than just CL.
    I'm in the middle of trying to start a small painting business, and one thing a buddy told me, who has been doing it for sometime is make sure to cover your ass with putting any agreement, or bill of sale in writing. Never just a verbal good faith deal. Most people are pretty good in business transactions, bet there will ALWAYS be someone who will try to take advantage of any situation if given the opportunity and cause you nothing but stress, and possible monetary headaches.
    I cannot stress enough how important it is to get stuff in writing if you're running a business. I am a self-employed, one man operation and it is essential to protect yourself. Also, if a customer does ask, tell or send you something that makes you pissed off, give it 24 hours before replying. More things come down to misunderstandings than they do actual attempts to take advantage of you, and if you reply from a pissed off state, it'll just make it worse. Misunderstandings can easily be resolved.

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    why has this guy not been deemed a "vexatious litagator"?

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    Why hasn't someone shot him yet?
    Oops, I did it again!

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    This guy is everything wrong with our system when it comes to lawsuits. He clearly just likes being a kidney stone to anyone he does business with in the hopes he can get rich--or at least make his entire living--from these suits. What an asshole.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    Dude belongs in prison, he does more harm to society than any damn guy selling weed on the corner.
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