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    This isn't the only story like this, only the most recent.

    A 17-yr old boy and a 16-yr old girl exchanged sexually explicit videos. The boy has been arrested and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile and child pornography. The girl was also charged with sexting, but since she is 16, it is a misdemeanor. Since he is 17, he faces felony charges.

    The police have this to say. "[Lt.] Davis reminded us about a news conference the Bossier sheriff's office held a little more than 2 years ago about a sexting case involving several teenagers and the public awareness campaign that followed. 'We had our detectives go to every high school and every middle school here in Bossier Parish and talked to all of the students about the consequences of not only sexting but how it can lead in to child pornography,' said Davis." Of course, there is no evidence that sexting leads to adults who indulge in child porn.

    The ridiculous part? It's legal under Louisiana law for these to to actually have sex. The age of consent is 17, but those under 17 and within two years of their partner can consent.

    The reason this case is a big deal is the racial implications. The boy is Black, the girl White. The boy's family is convinced he was targeted by the girl's parents because he is Black. The criminal justice system does discriminate against Blacks, so I don't find it implausible. To me, though, the bigger story is making felons of kids because the laws haven't caught up to technology. If I had had the technology at that age, I would likely be in the same boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    This isn't the only story like this, only the most recent.

    A 17-yr old boy and a 16-yr old girl exchanged sexually explicit videos. The boy has been arrested and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile and child pornography. The girl was also charged with sexting, but since she is 16, it is a misdemeanor. Since he is 17, he faces felony charges.

    The police have this to say. "[Lt.] Davis reminded us about a news conference the Bossier sheriff's office held a little more than 2 years ago about a sexting case involving several teenagers and the public awareness campaign that followed. 'We had our detectives go to every high school and every middle school here in Bossier Parish and talked to all of the students about the consequences of not only sexting but how it can lead in to child pornography,' said Davis." Of course, there is no evidence that sexting leads to adults who indulge in child porn.

    The ridiculous part? It's legal under Louisiana law for these to to actually have sex. The age of consent is 17, but those under 17 and within two years of their partner can consent.

    The reason this case is a big deal is the racial implications. The boy is Black, the girl White. The boy's family is convinced he was targeted by the girl's parents because he is Black. The criminal justice system does discriminate against Blacks, so I don't find it implausible. To me, though, the bigger story is making felons of kids because the laws haven't caught up to technology. If I had had the technology at that age, I would likely be in the same boat.
    This kind of stuff would've been handled by the parents in a previous time, now it seems that DAs, politicians, and police need to insert themselves in everything.

    You're right, when we were younger it was on paper and in photographs and it was difficult for "the powers that be" to get a hold of any physical evidence.

    Bottom line - we don't need to be making felons out of kids for this type of thing. The other bottom line is that I have no faith in our elected officials to get it right, so I will be making it very clear to my boys to avoid this kind of stuff as soon as they're old enough to understand.
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    It's dumb for a 17 year old to get into trouble for dating a 16 year old.
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    The trouble is in the sharing of photos. That's when it becomes child pornography...

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    Right, but when it is legal for them to actually fuck each other but a felony to have naked pictures of each other, that is really, really dumb.


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    I'm with cdnangel. It's the sharing of the photos that are the issue. Parents really need to hammer into their kids heads to never take nude photos. Nothing good comes from it.

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    I have had this talk with my kids on a pretty regularly basis.

    Let me tell a personal story on it if I may. My third son is eleven, and I already know that he will be the one with the Police knocking on my door at 3:00am saying "is this your son?"

    When he was NINE, he convinced another girl in the neighborhood to get naked for him. Without getting into the when or wheres or whys, it was pretty innocent, the old "show me yours and I'll show you mine" except for one thing.

    They recorded it on an iPod.

    Which was in my name.

    And possibly connected to the internet.

    I of course lost my flipping lid, but you have to put yourself back into what we were doing as kids, and realize they are doing the same stupid shit we did. But there is tangible evidence now all the time of it being done.

    And what that sheriff said is true, they do nail it home in school, that it is a sex crime.

    Stupid? Yes, on a lot of levels. Kids sexting pics is stupid...hell adults doing it is stupid, NOTHING IS PRIVATE. But a kid being labeled a child pornographer at 15 because he sent a dick pic is a little extreme. I know what the law says, but the end pursuit of the law should be justice, not the law itself. Let common sense prevail.
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    When I was 10 years old, I found my Dad's porn collection on Beta. I basically became the hero of the neighborhood with "film festivals" that we had when my parents weren't around.

    I also played the show me yours and I'll show you mine game, so I can only imagine the trouble I would get into if cell phones existed back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    When I was 10 years old, I found my Dad's porn collection on Beta. I basically became the hero of the neighborhood with "film festivals" that we had when my parents weren't around.

    I also played the show me yours and I'll show you mine game, so I can only imagine the trouble I would get into if cell phones existed back then.
    Beta? How old are you? 70? Are you actually ... Sammy Hagar???
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    Beta? How old are you? 70? Are you actually ... Sammy Hagar???
    44 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motherload View Post
    44 years old.
    Gotcha.

    So I spoke with a potential vendor this afternoon. Dude is an Irish guy living in Toronto. He had quite the accent.
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    Gotcha.

    So I spoke with a potential vendor this afternoon. Dude is an Irish guy living in Toronto. He had quite the accent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    I have had this talk with my kids on a pretty regularly basis.

    Let me tell a personal story on it if I may. My third son is eleven, and I already know that he will be the one with the Police knocking on my door at 3:00am saying "is this your son?"

    When he was NINE, he convinced another girl in the neighborhood to get naked for him. Without getting into the when or wheres or whys, it was pretty innocent, the old "show me yours and I'll show you mine" except for one thing.

    They recorded it on an iPod.

    Which was in my name.

    And possibly connected to the internet.

    I of course lost my flipping lid, but you have to put yourself back into what we were doing as kids, and realize they are doing the same stupid shit we did. But there is tangible evidence now all the time of it being done.

    And what that sheriff said is true, they do nail it home in school, that it is a sex crime.

    Stupid? Yes, on a lot of levels. Kids sexting pics is stupid...hell adults doing it is stupid, NOTHING IS PRIVATE. But a kid being labeled a child pornographer at 15 because he sent a dick pic is a little extreme. I know what the law says, but the end pursuit of the law should be justice, not the law itself. Let common sense prevail.
    That's scary as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleCrappy View Post
    That's scary as hell.
    What would kids do without their cell phones?
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    I know what I was like as a teen. If we'd had this technology when I was a teen I probably would have been another Amanda Todd...

 

 

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